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cali

(114,904 posts) Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:21 AM Sep 2014

How long? How many bombs? How many civilian deaths? [View all]

How much infrastructure damage? What is the metric for success? How much will it cost? Will the cost of a new war or a new front on a war, impact budgets for infrastructure and social welfare? Will our military action boost recruitment of ISIS?

I think these are fair questions to ask.

And Arab allies are not, this is a U.S. intervention. Yes, we got other countries to ally with us, but this will be widely viewed as U.S. directed and led.

And how ironic is it that Saudi Arabia and Qatar, two very oppressive, fundamentalist regimes are our allies? Not to mention that individuals in both countries have provided funding for ISIS- and in Qatar it's been done quite openly.

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How long? How many bombs? How many civilian deaths? [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

Obvious questions that should have been answered before any bombs fell. JEB Sep 2014 #1

You are missing the point.... Bigmack Sep 2014 #2

Guess none of that matters. When this is over there will be another. Autumn Sep 2014 #3

but but but they beheaded a couple of journalists NightWatcher Sep 2014 #4

Good thing those allied countries don't behead anyone. Oh, wait a minute... bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #6

Saudi Arabia whacked two dozen heads in August NightWatcher Sep 2014 #22

ISIS has murdered thousands of people. kwassa Sep 2014 #34

So do the juntas in Central and South America, Boko Harum, .... NightWatcher Sep 2014 #42

This is different, and it will be our fight if we do nothing. kwassa Sep 2014 #43

How many threads will you start on the same topic? kwassa Sep 2014 #5

Beat me to it. Of course, this makes a nice change from the HRC threads. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #7

i hope she starts many more, her threads on this topic are excellent. nt m-lekktor Sep 2014 #9

This bigwillq Sep 2014 #15

^^^this^^^ L0oniX Sep 2014 #17

"You're with us or you're against us"? We should be silent in the face of war? Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #10

Should we do nothing in the face of ISIS? kwassa Sep 2014 #23

Nobody has a "solution" to the problem. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #27

Doing something has a potential of a solution. Doing nothing has no potential. kwassa Sep 2014 #32

It sure as hell has a potential for making the situation worse. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #37

But is has a potential to make something better, too. kwassa Sep 2014 #38

All wars are based on Good Intentions. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #39

No. Most aren't, actually. kwassa Sep 2014 #40

No kidding. All "leaders" adopt the Noble Cause justification. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #41

If we don't try, we will have a disaster on our hands. kwassa Sep 2014 #44

And, if we try, we'll probably have a disaster on our hands. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #46

Answer the questions. They'll be asked until answered, duh. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #11

don't like it? don't read my ops. simple. cali Sep 2014 #12

Except you didn't actually present any information mythology Sep 2014 #20

I'm not looking for "satisfaction" cali Sep 2014 #24

and what have you suggested doing? kwassa Sep 2014 #29

You are trying to convince everyone. Hence, all these threads. kwassa Sep 2014 #28

Who the fuck do you think you are? If you don't like it, go outside or something. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #16

King of the Universe, of course. kwassa Sep 2014 #30

In war, truth is the first casualty. Aeschylus Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #8

yes, there's decidedly a "with us or against us" contingent here. cali Sep 2014 #13

Three years. Eleven thousand and six. Sixty-three. A lot. randome Sep 2014 #14

Long. Lots. Way too many. cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #18

Forever. Thousands. We don't care how many. morningfog Sep 2014 #19

The "civilian deaths" card is a bad one to play when opposing fighting ISIS Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #21

You haven't a clue as to whether or not that is true. cali Sep 2014 #25

Hence "probably" rather than "certainly". Donald Ian Rankin Sep 2014 #26

Bombing ISIL is what they want. Maedhros Sep 2014 #35

no, his guess on the subject is different than yours. kwassa Sep 2014 #31

Well, so far, the air strikes appear to be so pinpoint they've hardly been noticed. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #33

Does it matter? There are policies in place and the US, as Rove once told us 'is an Empire now'. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #36

we would have to cut off the entire middle east including Israel JI7 Sep 2014 #45