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In reply to the discussion: San Francisco restaurant closes and leaves angry note: "we don't give a f*** about gluten-free" [View all]Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)156. I'm sensitive to MSG.
I've gotten reactions from food which I didn't think had MSG when I ate it. When I checked the ingredients after getting a reaction, it turned out it did. I never got a false positive.
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San Francisco restaurant closes and leaves angry note: "we don't give a f*** about gluten-free" [View all]
Liberal_in_LA
Sep 2014
OP
It took the UK to post this thing? I'm unsure how outraged to be, walked down Grant St. Friday....
NYC_SKP
Sep 2014
#1
So Chinese Restaurant is in South of Market. I used to work near it and it was pretty good.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#16
That would be Sam Woo in LA. Not affiliated with Sam Wo in San Francisco. Oops.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#93
Oh, totally! It was an experience! And I can understand missing that. PM me the neighborhood
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#92
I didn't see this post 'til now, thanks! I'm going to try that Sam Woo's in L.A.
R B Garr
Sep 2014
#278
Cheap, greasy Chinese food is one of my ultimate culinary guilty pleasures.
nomorenomore08
Sep 2014
#132
It's still there and there are a couple of other Hunan House's in the city, too.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#35
I love to cruise Chinatown in San Francisco.. but if you should get bored there..
yuiyoshida
Sep 2014
#131
Nope. Informed consumers, where we expect to be told what's in a dish. Libertarians don't wanna.
freshwest
Sep 2014
#59
well no he can't. He has to at least comply with state and local regulations.
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2014
#40
Is it state and local regulation that you MUST serve gluten free, non-MSG, organic meals?
mainer
Sep 2014
#163
Um, in San Francisco "the food freaks" are also known as "your customers".
Warren Stupidity
Sep 2014
#4
Apparently he has weighed the risks of closing down and made his choice. nt
Nuclear Unicorn
Sep 2014
#6
You nailed it. Good restaurants care about serving good food and make an effort
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#125
That's ridiculous. There is no cuisine that is completely gluten-free, but Chinese food
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#267
I'm glad he's open about it at least, but what really bothers me are the intolerant
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#67
Tamari vs. Shoyu. Real tamari, not American labeled "tamari", is 100% soy. Shoyu or soy sauce
KittyWampus
Sep 2014
#140
Not true. Most good restaurants will accommodate even though they don't have a gluten free menu.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#121
In my experience in Seattle, they usually already have it. But if they don't, they're happy
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#210
So, you want to ignore the fact that many more people than those who have celiac disease...
HuckleB
Sep 2014
#244
Why are Celiac people the only people with a right to be concerned about gluten in food?
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#247
According to you, people with Celiac and other gluten sensitivity should never be able
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#269
People who want to foist their food views on everyone else are food freaks.
former9thward
Sep 2014
#193
Where is this "elsewhere" that they can eat? Chinese restaurants have no more trouble
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#197
I posted the link from the government's own website about the requirements of the ADA
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#206
The restaurant in the OP is not stopping anyone from asking what is in the food.
former9thward
Sep 2014
#200
The owner of that restaurant was mad that night because someone said his food was too spicy
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#208
A group of people refused to pay because the food was too spicy at a place that is known
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#231
Or the customer could go to a restaurant that serves food more closely in line with their dietary
Aristus
Sep 2014
#38
i have plenty of food issues (migraine triggers) but i've eaten at many restaurants no problem.
unblock
Sep 2014
#48
A Chinese restaurant is typically one of the better options for a person with gluten sensitivity.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#129
Oh God. Here we go again. I'm not a "trained diagnostician." Just a trained diagnostician.
Aristus
Sep 2014
#149
Uh, no. A restaurant chef is not one's personal chef. Read the menu; like it or leave.
WinkyDink
Sep 2014
#44
then the menu should say no substitutions or modifications or something, and the chef
unblock
Sep 2014
#53
It's a small family owned restaurant that does a robust lunch business. There are plenty
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#63
It is a popular restaurant and I've little doubt it will continue to be popular. Funny thing...
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#81
It isn't actually such a small number. And don't those people matter, too? They do under the ADA.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#47
I have fibromyalgia and it is not a fad disorder. It is diagnosable and It is no fun.
yellowdogintexas
Sep 2014
#69
Nobody wants it. I certainly don't want bleeding and cramps every time I eat gluten,
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#127
Nope. The majority of the reviews have been very positive since the local reporting a few days ago.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#23
The best Chinese food served in San Francisco is in the Richmond District.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#25
Dim Sum to die for and some of the best spicy Chinese food to make your hair stand on end.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#65
Seems there are more people asking for gluten-free than there are people who are allergic to it.
RandySF
Sep 2014
#28
How would you know? And what difference does it make? I'm glad more people are asking for it
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#51
Gluten gives me the symptoms of ulcerative colitis, including bleeding and cramps.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#119
Its part of the "paleo" fad diet. Which is pretty much the old Atkins diet, with more pseudoscience
Erose999
Sep 2014
#174
Ever hear of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA)? It covers restaurants, too.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#68
The link you are asking for is what I just gave you -- the government's own website
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#112
I never said it did. But in the Seattle area anyway, most Chinese restaurants can easily omit MSG
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#165
The accommodations for real Celiac Sprue and not the fad disease everyone claims to have
MattBaggins
Sep 2014
#82
I guess I am one of those fad people because I only have gluten-sensitive Crohn's disease,
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#113
It is no hardship not to put MSG in food or to substitute a wheat-free brand of soy sauce. n/t
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#124
I dont think the chef is sprinkling msg on the dish as it leaves the kitchen
Travis_0004
Sep 2014
#262
They use base sauces. Either bought in or made in-house. Then they add flavorings to make each of th
Erose999
Sep 2014
#265
Because fruit doesn't have gluten, it is a dumb label. Rather like cholesterol free hard candy.
uppityperson
Sep 2014
#100
Why not? They are already labeled 0% protein and 0% fat -- right on the standard label.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#162
Do you think it fair to require things obviously not there to be listed. Like that h2o bottle?
uppityperson
Sep 2014
#167
Of course it's fair to have a standard label, even though some of the answers may be ZERO.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#201
I would have expected a nurse to be more understanding. Sorry if you view that as an insult. n/t
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#233
Expect a nurse to have knowledge and common sense, not to blindly go along with silliness.
uppityperson
Sep 2014
#236
Because I've never known a nurse to take that dismissive attitude about gluten sensitivity.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#245
The "dismissive attitude" is towards labeling plain water as gluten and cholesterol free.
uppityperson
Sep 2014
#248
Yet you said you want it on bottled water labels,even though it is not in there.
uppityperson
Sep 2014
#256
I want it listed on the standard label. Even bottled water comes with standard labels,
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#268
But juice drinks sometimes have gluten added as a thickening and flavor agent.
Enthusiast
Sep 2014
#284
This isn't just about people with Celiac disease. But most of them can still be accommodated
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#122
Same with peanut allergies. And Chinese cooking uses peanut oil, which gets into everything.
mainer
Sep 2014
#179
So? I can eat most stir fry dishes, and it's not too hard for them to use a clean wok.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#191
At a guess, I'd say it's a matter of whether you believe so-called "organic" food...
Silent3
Sep 2014
#64
Its a Chinese fucking restaurant! Don't go there if your food allergies are a problem!!
riderinthestorm
Sep 2014
#49
So? MSG isn't a key part of traditional Chinese food. My mother learned to cook it from
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#55
Would all these nasty posts against people with food sensitivities/allergies be tolerated
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#56
I was responding to YOUR post about traditional Chinese restaurants. Should all Chinese restaurants
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#71
it's based on an--interesting--cafe that appeared on Gordon Ramsay's "Kitchen Nightmares"
MisterP
Sep 2014
#96
Thanks for enlightening me to a subcultural reference I had no idea existed.
KittyWampus
Sep 2014
#143
i have problems with lactose-so i do not go to ice cream stands--i do not demand that
dembotoz
Sep 2014
#144
So now one is forced to honor diversity by catering to vegans who REFUSE diversity?
mainer
Sep 2014
#166
When I go to a vegan's house, I have to eat vegan. When he comes to my house, I have to cook vegan.
mainer
Sep 2014
#178
Are you sure it was the MSG causing your symptoms and not something else? It's ubiquitous
mainer
Sep 2014
#157
I told a neighbor that the trash behind one "organic" themed restaurant was full of SYSCO boxes
KurtNYC
Sep 2014
#159
MSG is awesome. And its not just in Chinese food, its used in Indian and Mid East food a lot as well
Erose999
Sep 2014
#168
I get annoyed by people who ask stupid questions. Like, is your bread Gluten Free?
dilby
Sep 2014
#190