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Baitball Blogger

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11. Lots of things in your statement that don't match up to reality.
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 01:48 PM
Sep 2014

At one time, most of our elected officials were Rotary Club members. Should they notice every meeting held by this private organization? I mean, what could go wrong in a Rotary Club meeting which is known for selfless acts in the community?

Well, unfortunately, quite a bit. In my city the City Manager became a Rotary Club member in early 1996. In this organization were residents who were known to present vicious opposition to the city's plans. A few months after the City Manager became a member he reported back to the Commission to tell them that the members were happy about the brand new day. So, I think it's safe to say that city business was being discussed in the organization. The City Manager may have been breaching the Sunshine Law by being a conduit. But the elected officials may have also breached the Law.

A year later, when a major land development issue was consuming the city's agenda, someone stood up to report that there were Sunshine Breaches in these private meetings. It was hard to dispute the claim because the city attorney took a hit in that city meeting as a result of what was "leaked" to the community. What did the City Manager do to resolve this volatile issue that was being recorded on city tape? He suggested to the elected officials that they should subject themselves to a voluntary gag order.

From that point on the wagons tightened in this small community. Whoever was outside that inner circle was at disadvantage, and whoever was inside that circle, was at a great advantage. This inner/outer circle division would solidify when the legal land development issue was resolved with a confidentiality clause in a settlement agreement. What that confidentiality clause did, was provide legitimacy to a secret society. IMHO.

So, the Sunshine Law is not enough to cut through these inner circles. Most of the people who get recruited into them are not sophisticated enough to understand the law; and are unaware how illegal these conversations may be because this is part of an established social order.

But I think it's a great issue to debate.

Even big communities have trouble fighting some of these... JHB Sep 2014 #1
The idea is the same. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #4
that's partially why Florida has the Sunshine Law el_bryanto Sep 2014 #2
I am very versed in the Sunshine Law. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #3
When you say invited you mean invited to a private meeting? el_bryanto Sep 2014 #5
Lots of things in your statement that don't match up to reality. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #11
In a small community all sorts of corruption is possible, I admit el_bryanto Sep 2014 #14
"But that's corruption - that's not the fault of the law itself. " Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #17
I learned about that law living in an area where it was mentioned on the regular kcr Sep 2014 #8
It's great if you always have a tape recorder handy, and have the stomach Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #18
I once taught at a college where the president was a good ole boy Lydia Leftcoast Sep 2014 #6
Good work. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #12
watch those prayer meetings.... dembotoz Sep 2014 #7
Yep. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #13
I've seen them in North Georgia. Solly Mack Sep 2014 #9
"It was like an open secret everyone pretended wasn't happening." Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #15
I was invited to an open meeting about "Colorado's future energy use and job production" librechik Sep 2014 #10
Yup. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #16
My Mon. morning breakfast meeting this week had 7 women present. maced666 Sep 2014 #19
What is the purpose of the meetings? Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #20
kick for the early evening crowd. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #21
Definitely not daredtowork Sep 2014 #22
We should keep talking about these exclusive meetings, because something is interfering Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #24
It's corrupt but hard to avoid daredtowork Sep 2014 #25
Access to political representatives? Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #26
Star Chambers. nilesobek Sep 2014 #23
This goes on in corporations too OutNow Sep 2014 #27
Very eye-opening. Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #28
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