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DanTex

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82. I agree with this.

Tue Sep 23, 2014, 09:58 PM

Sep 2014

I think there was a cover of Time or Newsweek or something that said "The man who declared war on America" (don't quote me, but it was something like that). He was definitely a known quantity. More to the point, if you and I had heard of him, people who's jobs it is to figure out who's trying to commit terrorist acts shouldn't have been taken by surprise. From what I've read Condi and the rest of them downplayed the risk of Osama and terrorism in general and were focused more on Russia and missile defense and things like that.

I believe that if Gore had been president, then there wouldn't have been a 9-11. Obviously I can't prove this, and who knows what would actually have happened, but Clinton's people were on to Al Qaeda, and Bush's people were both ideologically driven and incompetent.

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Did you take Al Qaeda / bin Laden seriously before 9/11? [View all] Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 OP

What does it say in the full 9/11 report about warnings? CJCRANE Sep 2014 #1

Neither before nor after n/t reorg Sep 2014 #2

It started with USS Cole Boom Sound 416 Sep 2014 #3

And the embassy bombing in Tanzania Throd Sep 2014 #7

+1 BKH70041 Sep 2014 #4

Neither the Bush administration or the media CJCRANE Sep 2014 #5

And if the media, etc... had said they were a threat.... BKH70041 Sep 2014 #13

In fact they could have stopped it CJCRANE Sep 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author BKH70041 Sep 2014 #25

You have the audacity to question the age of other posters? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #40

AFAIK Alex Jones was talking about Bin Laden in the summer of 2001. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #41

Were you sentient in 1998? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #42

I'm aware of the history of Al Qaeda, CJCRANE Sep 2014 #44

The Bush Administration? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #46

How did you rate the threat of Al Qaeda CJCRANE Sep 2014 #49

This has gone far afield. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #50

My point is that one can be aware of CJCRANE Sep 2014 #54

What makes you think there was "almost no mention" in the media? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #55

2004 was after 9/11. Where are the examples from the summer of 2001? CJCRANE Sep 2014 #60

Bill Cohen, testifying in 2004, OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Sep 2014 #64

that you cannot be more specific is quite telling reorg Sep 2014 #66

You're ignoring an obvious factor in your presumption. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #67

following recent discussions and reports, the turn of phrase reorg Sep 2014 #69

If it's important for you to presume intent, go right ahead. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #72

I'd never heard of them before. Hatchling Sep 2014 #6

I'd never heard of them either. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #27

I don't think I'd heard of them treestar Sep 2014 #37

Yes I did, So did the Clinton administration and President Gore. Autumn Sep 2014 #8

So, I did not know much about Al Qaeda before 9/11. Xyzse Sep 2014 #9

I thought they were the Crimson Jihad ileus Sep 2014 #10

After 9/11 why take the 17+ Intel agencie$ seriously? leftstreet Sep 2014 #11

+10000000 PeteSelman Sep 2014 #74

Had anyone heard the names Al Qaeda and Osama Hari Seldon Sep 2014 #12

Yes. I had. Throd Sep 2014 #14

Not Time Magazine Hari Seldon Sep 2014 #15

PBS did jakeXT Sep 2014 #17

Your question prompted me to look for it reorg Sep 2014 #23

I had read about him in the July 1998 readers digest. NutmegYankee Sep 2014 #22

It was a fairly common discussion right here on DU before 9/11. ieoeja Sep 2014 #24

Interesting choice of username. You're aware that Al Quaeda translates as "The Foundation"? Electric Monk Sep 2014 #31

Yes. They were both out there Renew Deal Sep 2014 #52

The embassy bombings were a huge deal and in turn geek tragedy Sep 2014 #18

Yup....I was in high school at the time and even I remember those bombings Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #21

I remember the bombings but don't remember hearing Al Quaeda or Osama Bin Laden mentioned Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #29

They claimed 'credit' right away IIRC nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #32

Did you find CJCRANE Sep 2014 #19

I had not been paying attention. jwirr Sep 2014 #20

How about those from this site? BKH70041 Sep 2014 #26

Why would some terrorists reorg Sep 2014 #34

Because of what it would indicate. BKH70041 Sep 2014 #36

Did you take the color-coded terror alerts CJCRANE Sep 2014 #39

Those who have the ability to look into the archives at this site could check back and see BKH70041 Sep 2014 #45

I mention the color-coded terror alerts because they were a running joke on DU CJCRANE Sep 2014 #47

No i didn't take them seriously but after they attacked NYC I take them and the fact hrmjustin Sep 2014 #28

Not my job. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2014 #30

It's interesting that "did not wish to select any of the options provided." is currently winning. nt Electric Monk Sep 2014 #33

No movie required Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #35

Oh yeah right after I saw the classified documents, the daily briefings and SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #38

Yes, thanks to the Cole and embassy bombings in the 90s cemaphonic Sep 2014 #43

I took them as a threat in the 90s beginning with the embassy bombings, and then the Cole Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #48

Now that you mention it... OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #56

Yes, "Wag the Dog" came out in 97 and the Republicans accused Clinton Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #58

Yes. They claimed to want to finish the job at WTC and I believed them. Renew Deal Sep 2014 #51

Yes Go Vols Sep 2014 #53

you mean the 19 Saudis with boxcutters? NightWatcher Sep 2014 #57

Don't remember exactly when I was first aware of Al Qaeda dhol82 Sep 2014 #59

I agree with this. DanTex Sep 2014 #82

No. LWolf Sep 2014 #61

Yes, and I knew that Bush was ignoring the threat. Posting on a right wing dominated sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #62

First two words out of my mouth that fateful day was Bin Laden madokie Sep 2014 #65

I know where you're trying to go with this whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #68

Some of us read the "Terror 2000" report and just knew Bush was gonna fuck it up. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #70

The Terror 2000 report published in 1994? reorg Sep 2014 #73

No...the update. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #79

Where is the poll answer" Who the hell is Who?" librechik Sep 2014 #71

I wasn't old enough to Jamaal510 Sep 2014 #75

Until "September the Eleventh" 2001, Osama bin Missing was rustydog Sep 2014 #76

JFK was going to end the CIA, Why? Harry Truman regretted the NSA, Why? orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #77

Yep, and he was first on my mind when the towers were hit. RandySF Sep 2014 #78

1972. Munich Olympics attack on the Israeli Olympic team. FrodosPet Sep 2014 #80

You forgot customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #81