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bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
51. Or, if you can't pay off loans, don't take out loans
Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:44 PM
Sep 2014

I'm pretty much in agreement about paying off debt. I went through a pretty tough stretch of years before and after the recession, where I was making a decent check, but paying about every dime of it to keep up on bills, and scrimping to get by. I did keep up, enough to raise my credit score and re-fi my first and second mortgage and some of my student loans into one low-interest loan. Which saved me about $500 a month in payments. Now (with a better job to boot) everything is going just fine - money in the bank, money for extras and emergencies, and putting some away for retirement.

On the other hand, it wasn't without costs. My wife a few years ago was unemployed and had a credit card "problem", which I never knew the scope of since she hid the statements, and that sort of thing. One of the first things I did when she wasn't willing to talk about it or work out a plan, was to separate our finances, taking her off the house, and eventually getting an amicable divorce. I think she has something like 80k owed, though, again, she never wanted to talk about it.

I would be on the side of "pay it off", but I can't help but ask - what boneheaded bank would give a person with no job or assets $80,000, unsecured? I don't have a lot of sympathy with her (having other issues, of course), but I also have zero sympathy for the banks or the collectors in that kind of case.

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Simple solution: If you're carrying debt, pay it off. badtoworse Sep 2014 #1
Overly simple solution tkmorris Sep 2014 #2
If you're going to lose part of your check to a garnishment,... badtoworse Sep 2014 #5
In other words, choose to pay your debt rather than eat AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #14
If you're dealing with a potential garnishment, a judge will decide how much can be garnished. badtoworse Sep 2014 #20
I know someone that had $2 of her $8.25 wages garnished hobbit709 Sep 2014 #21
There are two sides in a situation like this, which is why a judge makes the call. badtoworse Sep 2014 #24
You're just full of sympathy for the less fortunate aren't you. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #25
It's not just a matter of sympathy; there is also an element of fairness. badtoworse Sep 2014 #28
badtoworse, it’s a pity you lack an understanding of the debt collection racket. ms.smiler Sep 2014 #37
In the end, someone got stuck with a defaulted loan. badtoworse Sep 2014 #52
badtoworse, I’m delighted to discuss these issues with you. ms.smiler Sep 2014 #57
You're overlooking a few points badtoworse Sep 2014 #68
badtoworse, I’m enjoying our discussion, thank you. ms.smiler Sep 2014 #83
You have a lot of misconceptions about debt. I'll respond to a few of them. badtoworse Sep 2014 #84
badtoworse, after hours per day on a daily basis of research into ms.smiler Sep 2014 #85
Citi and other loan-sharks charge and get paid usurious interest on the original loan brentspeak Sep 2014 #67
you want to talk about fairness? How about wages being suppressed for decades, unions being busted, liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #59
Everything is fair. Judges always make the right call. Nothing bad ever happens. kcr Sep 2014 #62
What an erudite response. What's your solution? badtoworse Sep 2014 #63
Knee cap them. kcr Sep 2014 #65
80% of bankruptcies are because of medical debt riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #71
IOW, no solution. badtoworse Sep 2014 #72
Recognizing a problem is the first step. kcr Sep 2014 #74
Single payer and free college education riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #75
The idea of a fresh start is that in life, closeupready Sep 2014 #77
We already have that. It's called bankruptcy. badtoworse Sep 2014 #79
Okay, so you're just here spoiling for an e-fight. closeupready Sep 2014 #80
What's wrong with bankruptcy? It addresses exactly what you posted. badtoworse Sep 2014 #81
And judges are angels sent our way to help. tecelote Sep 2014 #27
I guess it depends on whose ox is getting gored. badtoworse Sep 2014 #29
True. tecelote Sep 2014 #30
Duh. Two-income homes become one-income homes. closeupready Sep 2014 #16
Paying some of your creditors will not stop your other creditors Mariana Sep 2014 #61
You need to give that lecture to the likes of Donald Trump and Mitt Romney notadmblnd Sep 2014 #33
the only way you'd get them to pay attention would be with a clue by four. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #35
Seriously? People lose jobs, have unexpected expenses, get sick, etc. Hosnon Sep 2014 #7
More accurately, merely a 'simplistic solution'. LanternWaste Sep 2014 #9
you want to know what the simple solution is? notadmblnd Sep 2014 #34
And while you are at it save for retirement upaloopa Sep 2014 #18
Yeah ... you forgot ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #31
Manicures gollygee Sep 2014 #44
Or, if you can't pay off loans, don't take out loans bhikkhu Sep 2014 #51
I agree with you - consumer debt and even mortgages are entirely too easy to obtain badtoworse Sep 2014 #53
Extremely accurate post yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #54
You're right. Paint lenders in a bad enough light and the obligation to repay a loan disappears. badtoworse Sep 2014 #69
More simple solutions: Heywood J Sep 2014 #64
Falls under the category of other "simple solutions" such as brentspeak Sep 2014 #66
and if you do get sick, die quickly. burnsei sensei Sep 2014 #76
Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh . . . winning hearts and minds just like you know how again . . . . HughBeaumont Sep 2014 #70
ALEC rats no doubt Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #3
There was a recent thread claiming 10% of wage-earners closeupready Sep 2014 #4
I doubt that you're naive FBaggins Sep 2014 #32
Just for reference, here's the thread I am referring to: closeupready Sep 2014 #36
That's just about what I expected FBaggins Sep 2014 #49
It's not exactly that simple... pipoman Sep 2014 #6
And a lot of people dont show up to court to contest the debt Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #8
one stunt the collection agencies do is not properly notify you of a court date. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #12
A return of service has to be filed with the court pipoman Sep 2014 #43
Exactly. sendero Sep 2014 #26
Yeah, because I totally... bobclark86 Sep 2014 #39
that is a violation of the FDCPA Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #40
Not an option for them, and a lot of people pipoman Sep 2014 #45
coughcoughbullshitcoughcough nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #82
Yep pipoman Sep 2014 #41
One good thing about TX hobbit709 Sep 2014 #10
Texas also has very good personal bankruptcy exemptions, i.e. your house regardless of value. eom Purveyor Sep 2014 #19
People are encouraged to have child support garnished. tammywammy Sep 2014 #22
"Encouraged" meaning "required by law" since 1994. FBaggins Sep 2014 #50
Same thing here in PA Freddie Sep 2014 #56
Wow!!! Wellstone ruled Sep 2014 #11
It's mostly fear leftstreet Sep 2014 #13
People who fear should be helpful, not hostile, to others being affected AZ Progressive Sep 2014 #15
Either that, or they work in collections themselves. closeupready Sep 2014 #17
Or they are just sadists. BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #42
Don't forget bombs in the Middle East yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #55
Which will no doubt lead them to... Xolodno Sep 2014 #23
Repeal the 2005 bankruptcy reform mb999 Sep 2014 #38
There's a word for this: Brigid Sep 2014 #46
It reminds me gollygee Sep 2014 #48
except in the case of unpaid child support, wage garnishment should be illegal. nt Terra Alta Sep 2014 #47
Many years ago (1970's) I was a Bankruptcy Paralegal HeiressofBickworth Sep 2014 #58
Yes, indeed. Ignoring a problem and hoping it will just go away is not a smart choice. kcr Sep 2014 #73
Most lenders don't go to this extent davidn3600 Sep 2014 #60
I had my wages garnished once. RebelOne Sep 2014 #78
Are there certain companies that are more likely to garnish than others? Wella Sep 2014 #86
a belated k and r niyad Mar 2015 #87
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