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grahamhgreen

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89. Americans are. Leaders succumb to the monied interests.

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Tue Sep 23, 2014, 10:02 PM

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Did your heart drop? [View all] kentuck Sep 2014 OP

How about we create more sources of alternative energy? jwirr Sep 2014 #1

If there were no need for OIL..... humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #82

Americans are. Leaders succumb to the monied interests. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #89

Work Hard liberalmike27 Sep 2014 #131

Here's what I keep thinking: With all the hysteria over ISIS cali Sep 2014 #2

True that. CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #7

Agree wholeheartedly. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #27

Welcome to DU, CaptainTruth! calimary Sep 2014 #60

No doubt. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #94

ISIS provides a convenient distraction for exactly that. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #65

ISIS might exist for exactly that very purpose. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #95

My thoughts, too. freebrew Sep 2014 #121

I strongly believe that's the case. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #126

You are absolutely right. And polls taken a few years ago show that you are not the only sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #91

and our militarized police forces are also a greater threat noiretextatique Sep 2014 #98

Well, of course. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2014 #125

Exactly. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2014 #123

America will wage war forever. tecelote Sep 2014 #3

Well, that was depressing. WorseBeforeBetter Sep 2014 #8

Revolution is the only way to stop it. Initech Sep 2014 #70

We're too placated to revolt. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2014 #129

Perpetual war is what they want malaise Sep 2014 #4

The propagation of a forever expansion of MIC spending for as long as others will continue to indepat Sep 2014 #74

It's coming sooner than they think malaise Sep 2014 #112

I've thought so ever since the gipper foisted his voodoo economics upon us which was thereafter indepat Sep 2014 #141

No, because he wasn't telling me anything I didn't already know. n/t malthaussen Sep 2014 #5

Probably the one most significant change that will put an end to our Baitball Blogger Sep 2014 #6

No - I expected that. 840high Sep 2014 #9

not only were you expecting it, you were cheering it on .. 2banon Sep 2014 #21

You know me? I don't know you. 840high Sep 2014 #73

i don't know if this person was, but some here are cheering on this atrocity noiretextatique Sep 2014 #99

I was having a discussion newblewtoo Sep 2014 #10

Absolutely No abelenkpe Sep 2014 #14

Back in the day, everyone went pscot Sep 2014 #45

The Rich only Go into Combat if they Want To AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #53

No, it's only if WE want them to, as we can make laws to make it tougher to draft dodge, regardless whathehell Sep 2014 #140

You Would End Up Forcing Disabled People into Combat AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #142

Sorry, but that's about the most easily refuted argument against the draft I've ever heard. whathehell Sep 2014 #147

Getting a 4F Depended Greatly on One's Access to Doctors AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #149

No, it didn't because the draft board employs doctors to "screen" people. whathehell Sep 2014 #150

Exactly..I get tired of this "the rich won't serve" as if it were a foregone conclusion whathehell Sep 2014 #107

But it might change the minds of those ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #59

I agree..Enough with 'the little people' fighting the wars..When everyone is in, whathehell Sep 2014 #116

Disagree. The draft would include millions of middle class youth and that will get people's rhett o rick Sep 2014 #132

Precisely Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #16

No and No AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #58

Your opinion Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #71

here we go again, promoting that old canard as the solution. 2banon Sep 2014 #22

Sorry, but that old "canard" worked..There was no "get out of war free" card in WWII whathehell Sep 2014 #118

Yes, elleng Sep 2014 #25

He Was Wrong Then and he is Wrong Now AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #62

About Rangel's idea of a draft for men and women, absolutely not. The rich will find legal ways to Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #33

That didn't work in WWII. All five of FDR's sons were in that war, four in combat..Even Poppy Bush whathehell Sep 2014 #80

Apples and Oranges hueymahl Sep 2014 #110

"Many (but not all) of the sons of the wealthy went, but that was because they had to" whathehell Sep 2014 #114

Um...NO! SammyWinstonJack Sep 2014 #44

A Draft Can NEVER be Fair AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #51

No thanks BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #54

I've argued that forever Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #78

A draft doesn't guarantee that the blood is actually shared Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #84

Also, everyone gets paid on the level of the common enlisted man. Fantastic Anarchist Sep 2014 #135

Historically, perpetual war bankrupts empires, causing their eventual fall. Lex Sep 2014 #11

Ever Hear About A Book About... ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #19

Just An Added Comment, I Read ChiciB1 Sep 2014 #20

Corporations have moved beyond the quaint notion of state sovereignty bobduca Sep 2014 #90

No where did I say "state sovereignty" so take off your quotes. Lex Sep 2014 #137

Apologies Lex, I'm not sure what I was responding to. bobduca Sep 2014 #138

Guess what. We're not likely to completely leave Afghanistan anytime soon either. progressoid Sep 2014 #12

Albert Einstein is dead. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #13

NO lsewpershad Sep 2014 #15

The House of War PeoViejo Sep 2014 #106

It's time to take all our money and invest in proReality Sep 2014 #17

We MUST remove the profit motive for these wars. Until then, nothing changes. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #18

PNAC planned it, elleng Sep 2014 #23

This is true ^^^^ MrMickeysMom Sep 2014 #85

Really. elleng Sep 2014 #87

No, we should not withdraw from the rest of the world. randome Sep 2014 #24

All we are saying Fumesucker Sep 2014 #37

There is no 'we'. Each administration runs according to its own ethics and rules. randome Sep 2014 #41

No MFrohike Sep 2014 #56

'Technology' refers to more than just computers. randome Sep 2014 #75

Are you confused? MFrohike Sep 2014 #81

I like the way you think Fairgo Sep 2014 #97

"The fight is over power and money" deutsey Sep 2014 #102

You chose to ignore what you didn't like. randome Sep 2014 #109

No, I just didn't agree with your conclusion MFrohike Sep 2014 #146

Technology enhances global trade. randome Sep 2014 #148

Sometimes, I do hate to disagree MFrohike Sep 2014 #153

war is double plus good bobduca Sep 2014 #108

War is never good. randome Sep 2014 #115

Just when Obama does it. got it. bobduca Sep 2014 #117

ahh, the reduction to absurdity TheSarcastinator Sep 2014 #119

Throwing stuff at a wall to see what sticks... bobduca Sep 2014 #134

This is a strange H2O Man Sep 2014 #26

Endless war is normalized by neoliberalism, or really capitalism in general, Cal Carpenter Sep 2014 #28

There's an esoteric conversation going on.. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #29

That's it, in a nutshell Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #93

Bush said it would not end in our lifetimes, so this isn't really news to me. arcane1 Sep 2014 #30

nope - PNAC shanti Sep 2014 #31

Agree 100%. n/t Paper Roses Sep 2014 #32

"We don't have to withdraw from the world but we can withdraw from the Middle East." Algernon Moncrieff Sep 2014 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Sep 2014 #35

Good chance of a Rand Paul campaign, backed by corporatists in both parties. woo me with science Sep 2014 #36

Uggh. What a disgusting choice that would be at the ballot box! hueymahl Sep 2014 #111

Well, they can't feed my kids to the war machine! GreenPartyVoter Sep 2014 #38

That's assuming you listen to generals who consider giving up ANY base to be a "defeat". Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #39

I prefer honesty to "We'll have the boys home by Christmas," which is the usual lie. Hekate Sep 2014 #40

. randome Sep 2014 #49

I think the public appetite for war with Iraq or even Afghanistan for that matter loyalsister Sep 2014 #72

Hopefully Bernie or someone else will raise it in the Dem primaries KamaAina Sep 2014 #42

I know what you mean customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #43

Me too...100% agree. SoapBox Sep 2014 #46

Follow the money. roody Sep 2014 #47

It should be a campaign issue in 2014. winter is coming Sep 2014 #48

I got nauseated. This is fucking disgusting, it had better be a campaign issue in the 2014 election Autumn Sep 2014 #50

God damn you George W Bush and Heartless Cheney randys1 Sep 2014 #52

OIL graywarrior Sep 2014 #55

until every drop of oil is seized by the U.S., thats how long. SummerSnow Sep 2014 #57

I didn't hear it LWolf Sep 2014 #61

Still is dropping. n/t Duval Sep 2014 #63

Fuck you military industrial complex. Initech Sep 2014 #64

1961 orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #68

In 2016, can we still call this Bush's war? n/t hughee99 Sep 2014 #66

And the financial Terror he facilitated . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #69

I do find it disconcerting that Afghani soldiers were being trained in Ma and that they were allowed CentralMass Sep 2014 #67

Added layer of problems for the DEM nominee. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2014 #76

Be grateful it's not a Republican waging this war Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #77

Why is anyone surprised? flvegan Sep 2014 #79

Today's Cartoon Crewleader Sep 2014 #83

The 1% wants their interests protected in the region, and our military is their private Zorra Sep 2014 #86

If they said otherwise they'd be lying. So no. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #88

30 years Renew Deal Sep 2014 #92

There seem to be a lot of Democrats here who are not weary of war. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #96

Barry made a pretty good video on the subject. The MIC is an out of control monster. Rex Sep 2014 #100

Exactly! ctsnowman Sep 2014 #105

Democrats are sick of wars? vt_native Sep 2014 #101

What good would a war be ctsnowman Sep 2014 #103

2016 we'll get a rehash of Obama's 'I would have voted against the war…' by the next wannabe. toby jo Sep 2014 #104

And maybe I am going to start shitting rainbows. hueymahl Sep 2014 #113

Get with the program, kentuck. Octafish Sep 2014 #120

Recomend Read... KoKo Sep 2014 #124

USA! USA! USA! EEO Sep 2014 #122

Spin Control is conspicuously absent from this thread. marmar Sep 2014 #127

No, it was pretty much already at the bottom. ladyVet Sep 2014 #128

I feel we've been "Shock & Awed" once again..... KoKo Sep 2014 #130

This is not a Democrat vs. Republican issue. The Powers that run this country transcend rhett o rick Sep 2014 #133

How many more years will we starve onecaliberal Sep 2014 #136

No, I felt very angry when I heard the news. lark Sep 2014 #139

The money has to run out some time. bikebloke Sep 2014 #143

what happened to the 3 Afghani soldiers hopemountain Sep 2014 #144

Caught them at the Canadian border...whooosh Back to fear, MSM orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #145

more like hopemountain Sep 2014 #151

Who knows, not the Whitehouse Security staff . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #152

I think that as a people, Americans are more warlike goldent Sep 2014 #154