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tularetom

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21. Complacent or compliant?

Wed Sep 24, 2014, 08:31 AM

Sep 2014

I can believe they were complacent, that's not tinfoil. Bored, lazy unmotivated civil service employees forced to work away from home for days at a time, it's not hard to imagine they could be easily distracted and lose their focus.

Compliant implies to me that they were in on it, or at least knew about it and looked the other way. That's getting into the conspiracy theory realm and I tend not to buy into these because a conspiracy takes a lot of planning and organization and a whole lot of people need to be involved, not all of which are the sharpest tool in the shed. There are so many opportunities for somebody to screw up or blab, that the chances of pulling off a successful conspiracy are remote IMO.

I sort of agree with you. I can believe that the ISIS bombings, like the WH intruder, might be a diversion from some other nasty shit that we are about to get dumped on us, but what that might be, I have no clue.

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Am I the only one who's wearing a tin foil hat here on the lax WH security? [View all] Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 OP

Wasn't he caught fairly quickly? ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #1

Too long. elleng Sep 2014 #3

For me, knowing the actual duration ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #5

Sure is. elleng Sep 2014 #23

Close to thirty seconds, if that. former9thward Sep 2014 #27

Capturing someone within 30 seconds seems reasonable to me. nt ZombieHorde Sep 2014 #34

Me also. former9thward Sep 2014 #35

No tin foil here, elleng Sep 2014 #2

so what's your conspiracy theory? That the Secret Service, headed by an Obama cali Sep 2014 #4

I don't know what to believe... Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #8

if this breach was an inside job what would be the reasoning m-lekktor Sep 2014 #12

Complacent or compliant? tularetom Sep 2014 #21

I think it's a passive-agressive attempt to get less overtime/more SS people hired. winter is coming Sep 2014 #16

that makes a lot of sense. cali Sep 2014 #19

I wondered about it at first, but I don't think CJCRANE Sep 2014 #6

Very possible. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #9

In many organizations there is too much reliance CJCRANE Sep 2014 #11

No, you are not get the red out Sep 2014 #7

I was surprised he made it through the mine field whistler162 Sep 2014 #10

You mean that he wasn't hunted down and summarily executed like Miriam Carey was? Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #13

Except that a car can be a deadly weapon and she did injure a cop. If she was on foot, FSogol Sep 2014 #18

Actually she was on foot when executed Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #36

Not true: "Actually she was on foot when executed" FSogol Sep 2014 #38

When the car stopped Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #40

Sorry, but your "facts" and analysis are incorrect. Ciao. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #42

They are correct Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #43

Nope. Feral Child Sep 2014 #14

Looks more like good old-fashioned incompetence to me (nt) Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #15

Yup, someone was slacking off at work. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #17

Agreed. And some people need to lose their jobs because of it. Paladin Sep 2014 #25

Pass the tin foil. It crossed my mind. Vinca Sep 2014 #20

well, since joe scar has been pounding away at this for days now, my sense is that CTyankee Sep 2014 #22

The first family had already departed TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2014 #24

I think they're being deliberately complacent. Tatiana Sep 2014 #26

"they just do not take the job of protecting this President seriously." former9thward Sep 2014 #30

A simple cost effective solution.... Historic NY Sep 2014 #28

Sometimes a thing is not fraught with more drama than Skidmore Sep 2014 #29

see my thread from yesterday grasswire Sep 2014 #31

Ditto n/t malaise Sep 2014 #32

Take off the tin foil Proud Public Servant Sep 2014 #33

It was incompetenence on the part of the Secret Service. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #37

No, you are not. Hekate Sep 2014 #39

i think it could be that the amount of threats this President gets have been more than Previous JI7 Sep 2014 #41

After watching Rachel last night, it was confirmed as to how I feel. So no, DI, as usual you and I Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #44

My tinfoil hat is still firmly on my head. Drunken Irishman Oct 2014 #45