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In reply to the discussion: Emma Watson threat looks like it was a marketing hoax [View all]pnwmom
(110,318 posts)20. No, the "pranksters" weren't a marketing firm -- the firm was fake. But the pain to Watson was real.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/09/rantic-marketing-4chan-emma-watson-leak-hoax.html
How a Fake Viral Marketing Firm Convinced the Internet 4Chan Was Going to Leak Nude Photos of Emma Watson
Rantic itself doesn't actually exist, but is instead the work of the prolific pranksters behind another countdown hoax. Made up of people who go by the names Jacob Povolotski, Yasha Swag, Swenzy, and Joey B, the group is occasionally referred to as "Social VEVO." Last year, Social VEVO ripped copyrighted materials from Fox and created a similar countdown clock that promised to reveal information about Brian from Family Guy. That, too, was a hoax.
Convincing the internet that anonymous men would punish women with sexual and violent threats turns out to be remarkably easy, and thats because it's completely within the realm of possibility. The fake Rantic expertly manipulated the internet outrage cycle, not because the mainstream media listen[s] and believe[s] the feminist victimization narrative, as one particularly obnoxious Reddit user put it, but precisely because women are regularly victimized online. Povolotski and team also managed to take advantage of 4chans terrible reputation and turn it against them: Of course 4chan would punish an outspoken feminist by publishing her nudes, people thought. Thats what 4chan does.
In the end, for Watson, the threat still existed, even if it didn't come from 4chan, and the message was clear: Speak out as a woman about gender equality and you'll be punished. In this way, Rantic's actions are almost as indefensible as 4chan's. Both compounded the feeling that women are not safe on the internet.
How a Fake Viral Marketing Firm Convinced the Internet 4Chan Was Going to Leak Nude Photos of Emma Watson
Rantic itself doesn't actually exist, but is instead the work of the prolific pranksters behind another countdown hoax. Made up of people who go by the names Jacob Povolotski, Yasha Swag, Swenzy, and Joey B, the group is occasionally referred to as "Social VEVO." Last year, Social VEVO ripped copyrighted materials from Fox and created a similar countdown clock that promised to reveal information about Brian from Family Guy. That, too, was a hoax.
Convincing the internet that anonymous men would punish women with sexual and violent threats turns out to be remarkably easy, and thats because it's completely within the realm of possibility. The fake Rantic expertly manipulated the internet outrage cycle, not because the mainstream media listen[s] and believe[s] the feminist victimization narrative, as one particularly obnoxious Reddit user put it, but precisely because women are regularly victimized online. Povolotski and team also managed to take advantage of 4chans terrible reputation and turn it against them: Of course 4chan would punish an outspoken feminist by publishing her nudes, people thought. Thats what 4chan does.
In the end, for Watson, the threat still existed, even if it didn't come from 4chan, and the message was clear: Speak out as a woman about gender equality and you'll be punished. In this way, Rantic's actions are almost as indefensible as 4chan's. Both compounded the feeling that women are not safe on the internet.
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Were the replies to the hoax part of the hoax? Or did 4chan do those all on their own?
Cerridwen
Sep 2014
#1
It's called trolling for a reaction for a reason. You took the bait, so it worked.
DavidG_WI
Sep 2014
#79
Actually, 4chan was trolled and took the bait. I've been offline for 2 weeks-ish.
Cerridwen
Sep 2014
#82
Emma Watson got tormented by these "pranksters" because she was a high profile woman.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#22
whether the threat is real or not is not the issue and not what the discussion is about
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#10
Reminds me of the how the right changes things up when called out about fake Obama story/outrage
The Straight Story
Sep 2014
#13
The threat still existed even if it was a lie. The disgusting misogynist 4chan comments to the
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#37
Really Warren? Here is the thread in HoF. Not one who says 4chan should be shut down.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#52
The fake PR firm doesn't give a flying fuck about 4chan being shut down. Advocating for such was
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#66
Then the marketing hoax people are harassing her. That doesn't make it okay. n/t
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#14
Exactly. And the misogynist responses to the original story were frightening.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#15
serious women, doing serious work, in front of govt bodies. think sandra fluke. slut. take a video
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#41
Calling it a hoax can mislead people into thinking she wasn't actually victimized.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#34
I'm not saying they cared about the contents of the speech. Just that she had gotten a lot of
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#50
ya. here is a thread from DI. would you like to name the du men on that thread saying just that?
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#43
yes. and i know at least a handful are regular du men. this is what they think of women. nt
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#45
No, the "pranksters" weren't a marketing firm -- the firm was fake. But the pain to Watson was real.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#20
But the part that wasn't a hoax was that she was targeted because she was a woman
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#23
no. the probem some have in htis thread is the dismissal with hoax, you suckers. when the
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#42
The vile disgusting misogynists that were cheering on this "hoax" didn't know that...
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#51
he is not merely downplaying. he is purposely ignoring. it has been made clear
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#53
Perhaps not lecturing but attempting to lead the conversation away from a
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#63
The motives are clear, Warren. Profit at the expense of a feminist. Most feminists realized that
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#62
What's wrong with being naked? What a Puritanical society we live in. Maybe if we
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#65
that you support the meme of arent we all fools, as a woman is publicly threatened says a hell of a
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#85
i specifically addressed sabrina taking it to nudity. it was never about mere nudity as you both
seabeyond
Sep 2014
#89
Which of course DOESN'T mean that there are no sexist threats to women on the Internet
LeftishBrit
Sep 2014
#81