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20. feel free to cite another former NATO General of his rank, experience and expertise
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:51 AM
Sep 2014

and what does he actually say in the article you linked?

Up until now, NATO-Russia relations have been based on the Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation and Security, which is largely seen as prohibiting the permanent stationing of larger NATO contingents in its eastern member states. Is it time to rework or cancel the act?

The passage you're referring to is a unilateral NATO declaration. It says that NATO doesn't plan any major stationing of troops. It's a unilateral statement! So of course, you can revoke that anytime you want to, but I think doing so would be a big mistake. The value of the strategic partnership between NATO and Russia is much greater than the value you could achieve by stationing troops in the Baltic. That would be an escalation or worsening of the relationship.

No, it's about improving cooperation between NATO and Russia, it's about being prepared to solve conflicts and crises. The scope of possibilities we have at our fingertips today is actually unique in the post-Cold War era. It would be a pity if that were destroyed.

This strategic partnership has of course been rocked by Russia's course of action in Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Both NATO's secretary general and the Supreme Allied Commander Europe say that Russia is no longer a partner but a threat, an opponent. Do you share this assessment?

No, not at all. These are statements that don't contribute to de-escalating the situation, instead they escalate it.

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What is this story about? Renew Deal Sep 2014 #1
Russia lies about soldiers fighting in Ukraine Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #4
Basically Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #46
In Putin's sneaky war.. "Their bodies have been returned in recent weeks to loved ones who in many Cha Sep 2014 #2
That is in extremely bad taste. dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #3
I do not think so Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #5
I hope you mean Duckhunter's mockery Scootaloo Sep 2014 #6
The fact that there are some people who refuse to acknowledge what Russia is doing in Ukraine mythology Sep 2014 #7
I had failed to account for context in the earlier post and apologise unreservedly. dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #8
I edited my post Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #10
Things you won't read at RT... SidDithers Sep 2014 #9
Things you don't know if you don't read RT reorg Sep 2014 #14
I went to this page reorg Sep 2014 #11
There are over 100 names hack89 Sep 2014 #12
yes, allegedly dead, or missed, or shown to have been in Ukraine reorg Sep 2014 #13
"Nobody, even Russian officials, has ever denied that a number of Russian volunteers is fighting and pampango Sep 2014 #15
Yes, instead of vapid speculation we need specific information reorg Sep 2014 #16
Which is what Amnesty International did. And we are not 'forced' to agree with a former general's pampango Sep 2014 #18
feel free to cite another former NATO General of his rank, experience and expertise reorg Sep 2014 #20
Again, you are free to believe the opinion of a former general over that of Amnesty International. pampango Sep 2014 #22
read again what he actually says n/t reorg Sep 2014 #24
I did. pampango Sep 2014 #26
and still don't understand it, apparently reorg Sep 2014 #31
What Russia is denying jeff47 Sep 2014 #19
where in the OP does it say reorg Sep 2014 #21
So you aren't following the situation at all jeff47 Sep 2014 #23
"NATO says ...", LOL reorg Sep 2014 #25
Actually, yes you are claiming it isn't there. jeff47 Sep 2014 #27
if you stop talking to yourself reorg Sep 2014 #29
And when you instantly reject such proof as a massive NATO conspiracy jeff47 Sep 2014 #37
if you stop talking to yourself reorg Sep 2014 #39
The onus is on those peddling absurd bullshit geek tragedy Sep 2014 #28
the only claim I posted reorg Sep 2014 #30
"Self defense forces" geek tragedy Sep 2014 #32
Self defense is sometimes necessary reorg Sep 2014 #34
Once again, we Jews are touched by this sudden concern about antisemitism in eastern europe. stevenleser Sep 2014 #38
So you agree that self defense against violent, stupid Nazis is necessary? reorg Sep 2014 #42
No. As long as they are fighting Russians and traitors in a time of desperate need. I would say let stevenleser Sep 2014 #43
It would appear that your appreciation of "Russians" is similar to, uh, never mind n/t reorg Sep 2014 #44
Nope. I was putting myself in the mindset of the Ukrainian government. stevenleser Sep 2014 #47
Red herring aside, it was the pro-Russian seperatists who chose to seize government buildings..... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #41
Hm, I wonder why they would risk their lives doing that reorg Sep 2014 #45
The precedent was set in Crimea.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #48
Have proof of that? MattSh Sep 2014 #33
Yes jeff47 Sep 2014 #36
Well, yeah. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #40
Lives hardly started, so sad. War sucks. closeupready Sep 2014 #17
Putin is afraid of Russian mothers. nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #35
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