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cascadiance

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33. Perot has left a message of broader bipartisan support to fight so-called "free trade" deals...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:19 AM
Sep 2014

... like NAFTA, which was a big part of his campaign then, that provided many of his voters against both Clinton and Bush who both supported NAFTA, which many people look back on and say HE WAS FRICKING RIGHT!!!!

Now, I don't think just his proper position was enough for people to want him to be a president for every other responsibility that a president has, but it did serve to show support for positions on issues outside the views of both parties that could potentially unify America against corporatist control!

If we had instant runoff voting then, he might have had even more support than he got, as people would feel less concerned about the worse of the other "two evils" winning had that been in place.

Until we have instant runoff voting, new parties divergent from the mainstream corporate control of both parties will have to work within one of these two parties to get political power and people elected. Has already happened with the Tea Party within the Republican Party, and I think Bernie would be doing the right thing by doing another similar effort within the Democratic Party. I think he could really help take some control away from the third way mantra crap we have within the party now, as many, not just leftists will support his more populist views, especially with things like "free trade" crap like the TPP, which Ross Perot showed us when he ran can reach across party lines for support against the 1% control mongers.

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Interesting coming from Kshama Sawant considering 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #1
her politics are consistently liberal noiretextatique Sep 2014 #5
her financial disclosure noiretextatique Sep 2014 #6
"she is an, extremely rich..." Uhuh. Riiiiight. Have any proof? Thought not. Veilex Sep 2014 #8
I find your denigrating her denigrates me as a software engineer as well! cascadiance Sep 2014 #12
Beautiful post. woo me with science Sep 2014 #32
Despite the obvious smear, you get credit for truth in advertising RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #13
If you are local, you have no excuse for being ignorant. If you aren't-- eridani Sep 2014 #18
Speaking of "merely because they say things that we like," merrily Sep 2014 #31
She is stating the all too obvious. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #2
I know Ichingcarpenter Sep 2014 #4
GO BERNIE!!! TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #3
I'm So With Her colsohlibgal Sep 2014 #7
I so much like what Kshama is saying, but the mechanics of the two party system we have now... cascadiance Sep 2014 #9
I disagree. He will be completely marginalized if he runs as an Independent. cali Sep 2014 #10
It would be a disaster if he ran as an Independent 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #19
I don't know that it would do that. And I don't think it's written in stone that Hillary will cali Sep 2014 #20
It's a free country and you are free to kid yourself 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #22
lol. I don't think you have a clue as to what "set in stone" is cali Sep 2014 #23
A democratic coronation 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #24
that's familiar. cali Sep 2014 #25
Brilliant! We'll assume that the entire U.S. electorate is like Seattle! Jim Lane Sep 2014 #11
which is exactly why nothing ever changes. We will only see change when the two liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #15
I see no evidence of that. Jim Lane Sep 2014 #16
Again, that is exactly why nothing changes. Eventually wages will be suppressed to the point liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #17
"Then we will have true change." Or not. Or a temporary one. merrily Sep 2014 #30
If you saw no effect on Bill Clinton from Perot's run, you merrily Sep 2014 #27
I've definitely seen the effects of the primaries. Jim Lane Sep 2014 #28
I didn't realize primaries was the subject of the post to which I replied. merrily Sep 2014 #29
Perot has left a message of broader bipartisan support to fight so-called "free trade" deals... cascadiance Sep 2014 #33
She makes me so proud to live anywhere near Seattle. I wish I did live in Seattle so I could liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #14
I want someone to vote for, I want to be able to vote for Bernie Sanders. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #21
One word: funding. merrily Sep 2014 #26
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