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jeff47

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27. Actually, yes you are claiming it isn't there.

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:52 AM

Sep 2014

I am not claiming that it isn't there

Actually, you are when you claim the reports are lies.

See, if they're lies, then the equipment isn't there. If the equipment is actually there, they aren't lying.

But no, clearly RT is telling the complete truth and we can believe them blindly. Large numbers of Russian soldiers decided that a war zone in Ukraine was a lovely place to take their vacation, and a far better choice than seeing their families.

And it just happened that all of them decided to fight on one side of the conflict.

And they just happened to have heavy equipment with them that the Ukranians do not have (Buk missiles that are not white), or did not store in the area (heavy artillery).

Boy, those Ukrainian rebels sure are lucky to have all those things work out in their favor!

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Some of the Russian soldiers killed while on vacation [View all] Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 OP

What is this story about? Renew Deal Sep 2014 #1

Russia lies about soldiers fighting in Ukraine Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #4

Basically Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #46

In Putin's sneaky war.. "Their bodies have been returned in recent weeks to loved ones who in many Cha Sep 2014 #2

That is in extremely bad taste. dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #3

I do not think so Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #5

I hope you mean Duckhunter's mockery Scootaloo Sep 2014 #6

The fact that there are some people who refuse to acknowledge what Russia is doing in Ukraine mythology Sep 2014 #7

I had failed to account for context in the earlier post and apologise unreservedly. dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #8

I edited my post Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #10

Things you won't read at RT... SidDithers Sep 2014 #9

Things you don't know if you don't read RT reorg Sep 2014 #14

I went to this page reorg Sep 2014 #11

There are over 100 names hack89 Sep 2014 #12

yes, allegedly dead, or missed, or shown to have been in Ukraine reorg Sep 2014 #13

"Nobody, even Russian officials, has ever denied that a number of Russian volunteers is fighting and pampango Sep 2014 #15

Yes, instead of vapid speculation we need specific information reorg Sep 2014 #16

Which is what Amnesty International did. And we are not 'forced' to agree with a former general's pampango Sep 2014 #18

feel free to cite another former NATO General of his rank, experience and expertise reorg Sep 2014 #20

Again, you are free to believe the opinion of a former general over that of Amnesty International. pampango Sep 2014 #22

read again what he actually says n/t reorg Sep 2014 #24

I did. pampango Sep 2014 #26

and still don't understand it, apparently reorg Sep 2014 #31

What Russia is denying jeff47 Sep 2014 #19

where in the OP does it say reorg Sep 2014 #21

So you aren't following the situation at all jeff47 Sep 2014 #23

"NATO says ...", LOL reorg Sep 2014 #25

Actually, yes you are claiming it isn't there. jeff47 Sep 2014 #27

if you stop talking to yourself reorg Sep 2014 #29

And when you instantly reject such proof as a massive NATO conspiracy jeff47 Sep 2014 #37

if you stop talking to yourself reorg Sep 2014 #39

The onus is on those peddling absurd bullshit geek tragedy Sep 2014 #28

the only claim I posted reorg Sep 2014 #30

"Self defense forces" geek tragedy Sep 2014 #32

Self defense is sometimes necessary reorg Sep 2014 #34

Once again, we Jews are touched by this sudden concern about antisemitism in eastern europe. stevenleser Sep 2014 #38

So you agree that self defense against violent, stupid Nazis is necessary? reorg Sep 2014 #42

No. As long as they are fighting Russians and traitors in a time of desperate need. I would say let stevenleser Sep 2014 #43

It would appear that your appreciation of "Russians" is similar to, uh, never mind n/t reorg Sep 2014 #44

Nope. I was putting myself in the mindset of the Ukrainian government. stevenleser Sep 2014 #47

Red herring aside, it was the pro-Russian seperatists who chose to seize government buildings..... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #41

Hm, I wonder why they would risk their lives doing that reorg Sep 2014 #45

The precedent was set in Crimea.... Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #48

Have proof of that? MattSh Sep 2014 #33

Yes jeff47 Sep 2014 #36

Well, yeah. Tommy_Carcetti Sep 2014 #40

Lives hardly started, so sad. War sucks. closeupready Sep 2014 #17

Putin is afraid of Russian mothers. nt TeamPooka Sep 2014 #35