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48. Hersch is an excellent journalist.

Thu Sep 25, 2014, 04:38 PM

Sep 2014

That doesn't mean this narrative is the correct one. Plausible doesn't make it correct. There are plausible arguments just as well presented that the Saudi's were responsible. There are plausible arguments that the Syrian opposition was responsible. And there is the plausible argument that the Assad government was responsible, which has an awful lot going for it.

Unnamed sources quoting other unnamed sources is a reason to stop and think. Doesn't mean that Hersch is misrepresenting or misreporting what his sources told him, but "former intelligence officials" and "former Turkish diplomats" sometimes get it wrong.

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Anyone remember how this time last year Obama and Kerry Pushed for Bombing Syria? [View all] J_J_ Sep 2014 OP

I remember that it was mentioned as an option. HuckleB Sep 2014 #1

UK Parliament said no, US Congress didn't want to vote leftstreet Sep 2014 #2

Last year, Congress challenged Obama on his authority to merrily Sep 2014 #5

That's not why Obama backed off leftstreet Sep 2014 #18

I still think Obama backed down after the letters from the House and Boehner. merrily Sep 2014 #22

Well that version certainly looks better n/t leftstreet Sep 2014 #23

I don't see how that is the same issue. Gman Sep 2014 #3

For the UK, it was about bombing Syria leftstreet Sep 2014 #6

There is no gassing to stop Gman Sep 2014 #9

Gassing, beheadings, yellowcake, shoebombers leftstreet Sep 2014 #12

Do not forget that the gassing was a false-flag operation instigated by Turkey Maedhros Sep 2014 #14

Good find..I had missed that bit of info. dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #45

This information is mind-blowing waddirum Sep 2014 #64

Important post. woo me with science Sep 2014 #76

But we wanted to bomb the *other* side last time. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #26

Which the UN investigated and found to be false. The UK Parliament also rejected sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #20

Don't forget Cuba leftstreet Sep 2014 #27

I missed that! Lol, from Bolton of all people! Shouldn't he have included the US sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #32

"America is determined to prevent the next wave of terror" dixiegrrrrl Sep 2014 #47

Agreed Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #49

sorry, but dishonesty rules the day among those trying to get us into another war waddirum Sep 2014 #65

Cuz they changed the excuse??? Communism, WMD, Yazidi, Khorasan.... Whatever. grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #58

Indeed. Last year public opinion (and congress) was opposed to bombing. It didn't happen. pampango Sep 2014 #66

And suddenly there is a new reason to a bomb Syria yurbud Sep 2014 #4

Last year, Congress faced down Obama. merrily Sep 2014 #7

Yep. Two countries left on the PNAC list: Syria and Iran. woo me with science Sep 2014 #8

I just pointed that out above. How quickly people forget, the goals of the PNAC. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #21

Totally different situation tularetom Sep 2014 #10

Sounds like a board game. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #54

As a matter of fact I do. Our collective amnesia is nothing compared to our moral flexibility. pa28 Sep 2014 #11

When the 'end justifies the means' nothing really has to make sense. Just keep on throwing sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #24

ISIS's debut in the MSM came with the take over of Mosul IIRC. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #33

I think they did that to snooker Congress into action padfun Sep 2014 #13

Yes, I remember when approximately 1,000 people were killed with Sarin nerve gas cheapdate Sep 2014 #15

Yes - killed by Turkey. Maedhros Sep 2014 #17

Could have, but this is hardly compelling. cheapdate Sep 2014 #28

Hersh has more credibility that the White House, IMO. [n/t] Maedhros Sep 2014 #29

I'm not questioning Hersch's credibility. n/t. cheapdate Sep 2014 #30

That's how I read it. Maedhros Sep 2014 #35

Hersch is an excellent journalist. cheapdate Sep 2014 #48

So when did we invade Iran? I remember that was Hersch's scoop for about 10 years? n/t sweetloukillbot Sep 2014 #51

That's quite a scoop. cheapdate Sep 2014 #52

True enough. Maedhros Sep 2014 #53

Assad gassed his own people I don't care what Hersh has to say about it.. I trust Bernie Sanders Cha Sep 2014 #68

No, it was Assad - even though there are diehards pushing the stories you post karynnj Sep 2014 #31

Here's Bernie talking about Assad gassing his own people, karyn.. Cha Sep 2014 #69

Please post a link showing that the gassing was definitively from Assad waddirum Sep 2014 #77

According to a has- been who prints geek tragedy Sep 2014 #81

The pressure did not come from the US. Kerry stated, when asked what Assad needed to sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #40

So, we're to believe that the intense manuevering, negotiations, and last-miuinte actions cheapdate Sep 2014 #46

LOL. 'What Kerry never expected'...that's what low-information corpmedia has people thinking. blm Sep 2014 #16

You have inside information? Could you please share it with us? We poor sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #42

Low-information corporate MEDIA. Like I said - If you weren't paying attention in blm Sep 2014 #55

I don't read or listen to Corporate Media other than to check them against more sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #75

Your 'credible sources' read the Kerry-Assad-Lavrov page completely wrong. blm Sep 2014 #79

All you need to do is give us something concrete, not what you are 'thinking' or 'interpreting' sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #87

LOLOL - I posted plenty at the time - enjoy your search. blm Sep 2014 #88

You don't need inside information to follow this at all karynnj Sep 2014 #72

Of course I remember. The President's bombing plan was thwarted this year, so a new excuse Romulox Sep 2014 #19

This is a bit facile. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #25

The MIC doesn't care who or why we're bombing. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #67

Bombing never solves anything. RoccoR5955 Sep 2014 #34

"See ... We were right, all along!" ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #36

i was actually thinking of this JI7 Sep 2014 #38

Republicans don't want Obama to have ANY power, much less wartime powers. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #37

Memory Lame whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #39

Lol, that IS funny. Looks like a few people owe YOU an apology! sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #43

;) whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #44

Oh my WORD. woo me with science Sep 2014 #60

Haha, yup whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #61

SNAP! BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #62

Wait. You think you come out looking good in that thread?... SidDithers Sep 2014 #71

Better than you whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #73

You humiliated yourself in that thread. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #83

Lol whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #85

Evidently the media doesn't remember either. McCain at al are allowed to say "shoulda" "wppida" kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #41

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #50

Who benefits? IronLionZion Sep 2014 #56

Who pays? grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #59

Indeed, who, what and why? IronLionZion Sep 2014 #63

No Compromise...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #57

"Understanding Obama's Syrian Speech" by EarlG.. Cha Sep 2014 #70

EarlG presented his opinion as fact whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #74

Wrong. Still derp. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #82

kick woo me with science Sep 2014 #78

And that threat resulted in Syria giving up geek tragedy Sep 2014 #80

You talk a lot whatchamacallit Sep 2014 #84

Kick for exposing lies. woo me with science Sep 2014 #86