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alarimer

(17,146 posts)
39. She is a crank, like the Geyers and Wakefield.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 06:26 PM
Sep 2014

Her publication record does not support here assertions:


From Science-Based Medicine:

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/crank-conferences-a-parody-of-science-based-medicine-that-can-suck-in-even-reputable-scientists-and-institutions/

Dr. Herbert is, it turns out, a big fan of the idea that autism has something to do with neuroinflammation. Unfortunately, none of her publications persuasively presents evidence for this hypothesis, and lately she’s publishing in bottom-feeding alternative medicine journals articles with titles like Learning From the Autism Catastrophe: Key Leverage Points. Suffice it to say, Dr. Herbert is big on “biomedical” woo, so much so that anti-vaccine propagandist David Kirby likes to cite her and Age of Autism loves her. Unfortunately, for all her grandiose claims that neuroinflammation is a major cause of autism and that mold and other environmental influences trigger it, Dr. Herbert’s publication record does not support these assertions. Go ahead. Head over to PubMed and look at Dr. Herbert’s publication record. I’ll wait. She has listed 15 publications about autism, of which:

six are review articles
two are in alt-med journals, and one of these is an interview
one is a paper with dozens of authors reporting the results of mapping autism risk loci using genetic linkage and chromosomal rearrangements. (Dr. Herbert is solidly right in the middle of the huge pack of authors.)
Of the remainder, Dr. Herbert only appears to be first author or senior author on four publications on autism containing original research, and these appear to be all imaging studies of the brains of autistic children. In other words, Dr. Herbert is making claims far beyond what her publication record in the peer-reviewed literature can, even under the most charitable interpretation possible, support. Nothing in her publication record appears to support her concept of autism being a systemic, rather than brain-based condition. There’s nothing there to support a link between autism and gut disorders; nothing to support a link between autism and immune dysfunction; and nothing to support a link between “environmental influences” and autism. That’s not to say that there aren’t environmental factors that influence the development of autism; it’s just that there’s nothing in Dr. Herbert’s publication record to support such a hypothesis or to identify what, if anything, those environmental factors might be.

This is the “keynote speaker.” She is, however, faculty at Harvard University.

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and science denying anti-vaxxer. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #1
That is a vicious lie being spread RobertEarl Sep 2014 #9
Thank you. nt pnwmom Sep 2014 #16
sounds like confirmation to me wyldwolf Sep 2014 #28
No it isn't a lie at all. alarimer Sep 2014 #35
The author of that article may be a sellout RobertEarl Sep 2014 #42
Anti vaxxers be like... zappaman Sep 2014 #51
Glad to see you seem to know as much about vaccines as you do about radiation. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #53
RFK Jr is a great Democrat, the son of another great Democrat who would be so proud of sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #58
Democrat, environmental activist, fucking lunatic. name not needed Sep 2014 #2
That doesn't offset his antivaxx stance. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #3
He's not against vaccines. That's a lie spun by people who can only think in black and white. pnwmom Sep 2014 #18
You've been told that is BS on how many threads now? hobbit709 Sep 2014 #23
At least a dozen. zappaman Sep 2014 #24
And obviously not registering. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #26
Anti vaxxers be like... zappaman Sep 2014 #27
Yeah, I've been "told" that by lots of fake experts. Martha Hebert, the professor in neurobiology pnwmom Sep 2014 #33
There is NO mercury in vaccines now. alarimer Sep 2014 #36
No, anyone saying the opposite is lying or stupid. pnwmom Sep 2014 #37
You've been listening to too many Big Pharma shills. JFK Jr is not against vaccines, no matter how sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #60
Also a dangerous, misinformed asshat. zappaman Sep 2014 #4
His children are fully vaccinated. All he's asking is that thimerosol be taken pnwmom Sep 2014 #10
Keep fanning those fears RFK Jr! zappaman Sep 2014 #12
Dr. Martha Hebert is an pediatric neurologist and autism researcher at Harvard. pnwmom Sep 2014 #15
She is a crank, like the Geyers and Wakefield. alarimer Sep 2014 #39
It's a shame when one goes out on a crazy limb (anti-vax) and has it taint all their other good work NightWatcher Sep 2014 #5
Apparently you can't point out his asshattery when it comes to being an anti-vaxxer zappaman Sep 2014 #6
Oh really. It isn't stopping anyone here. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #7
Then why the OP? zappaman Sep 2014 #11
Because many people, you included, don't know that he doesn't just have "great stuff to say" pnwmom Sep 2014 #13
pnwmom… I think you waste your time with some of the carrot stroker remarks you're getting... MrMickeysMom Sep 2014 #57
I thought Camelot was over NightWatcher Sep 2014 #8
If he was such an environmentalist, badtoworse Sep 2014 #14
He's still an anti-vax asshat...nt SidDithers Sep 2014 #17
I liked the guy until he joined the Jenny McCarthy crowd. LostInAnomie Sep 2014 #19
He's also an activist against harmful pharmaceuticals being Cleita Sep 2014 #20
Good point, Cleita. This does look increasingly like a smear campaign pnwmom Sep 2014 #21
for certain reddread Sep 2014 #31
The man is an anti-science crank. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #22
So too bad he's so against the "science" of the oh so valuable mountaintop removal efforts... cascadiance Sep 2014 #30
That's irrelevant to his position on vaccines, which is still wrong and dangerous. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #32
But it is relevant to calling him names like "asshat"... cascadiance Sep 2014 #40
No, it really isn't. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #45
His position is that mercury shouldn't be added to vaccines that pregnant women and children get. pnwmom Sep 2014 #47
No, it isn't; stop misrepresenting what he says. Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #48
I can understand that there is a debate on this, and he may perhaps really have a weak argument... cascadiance Sep 2014 #49
I've provided quite a lot of substance. Did you read it? Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #50
Like you, I don't have a great deal of knowledge of this subject, though I might have to change that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #61
I agree w/ you deathrind Sep 2014 #25
...who's dead fucking wrong on thiomersal and autism. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #29
Not according to Martha Hebert, MD, the Harvard neurology professor pnwmom Sep 2014 #34
I do because a mountain of scientific research since Wakefield's original fraud has said otherwise. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #38
If this guy Hebert connects vaccines and autism in any way... Archae Sep 2014 #41
She's a neurologist who says that neurotoxins shouldn't be added to vaccines. pnwmom Sep 2014 #43
You're avoiding my point. Archae Sep 2014 #44
Mercury is a neurotoxin, and it's added to flu vaccines that pregnant women and small children pnwmom Sep 2014 #46
Would you let someone put a large amount of poison in your system? Archae Sep 2014 #52
Methylmercury and ethylmercury are not the same thing. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #54
Both are neurotoxins. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #55
You'd do better wasting your time teaching a pig to sing than to reason with her. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #56
Absolutely. ucrdem Sep 2014 #59
And an idiotic anti-vaccination lunatic. longship Sep 2014 #62
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