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In reply to the discussion: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr, Democrat and environmental activist [View all]Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)45. No, it really isn't.
His position on vaccines is wrong, stupid, and dangerous. He is misusing the public platform he has on account of his name to spread fear and falsehood. I wouldn't call him an "asshat", personally (and haven't; you can check my posting history, assuming you can work out how to use the search function; so I'd thank you to not claim I have done).
I'm not the only one who has a problem with what he's done. Rolling Stone and Salon published a piece making many of the same vaccine-related claims by RFK Jr in 2005. That piece has been retracted since:
In 2005, Salon published online an exclusive story by Robert F. Kennedy Jr. that offered an explosive premise: that the mercury-based thimerosal compound present in vaccines until 2001 was dangerous, and that he was convinced that the link between thimerosal and the epidemic of childhood neurological disorders is real.
The piece was co-published with Rolling Stone magazine they fact-checked it and published it in print; we posted it online. In the days after running Deadly Immunity, we amended the story with five corrections (which can still be found logged here) that went far in undermining Kennedys exposé. At the time, we felt that correcting the piece and keeping it on the site, in the spirit of transparency was the best way to operate. But subsequent critics, including most recently, Seth Mnookin in his book The Panic Virus, further eroded any faith we had in the storys value. Weve grown to believe the best reader service is to delete the piece entirely.
I regret we didnt move on this more quickly, as evidence continued to emerge debunking the vaccines and autism link, says former Salon editor in chief Joan Walsh, now editor at large. But continued revelations of the flaws and even fraud tainting the science behind the connection make taking down the story the right thing to do. The storys original URL now links to our autism topics page, which we believe now offers a strong record of clear thinking and skeptical coverage were proud of including the critical pursuit of others who continue to propagate the debunked, and dangerous, autism-vaccine link.
http://www.salon.com/2011/01/16/dangerous_immunity/
The piece was co-published with Rolling Stone magazine they fact-checked it and published it in print; we posted it online. In the days after running Deadly Immunity, we amended the story with five corrections (which can still be found logged here) that went far in undermining Kennedys exposé. At the time, we felt that correcting the piece and keeping it on the site, in the spirit of transparency was the best way to operate. But subsequent critics, including most recently, Seth Mnookin in his book The Panic Virus, further eroded any faith we had in the storys value. Weve grown to believe the best reader service is to delete the piece entirely.
I regret we didnt move on this more quickly, as evidence continued to emerge debunking the vaccines and autism link, says former Salon editor in chief Joan Walsh, now editor at large. But continued revelations of the flaws and even fraud tainting the science behind the connection make taking down the story the right thing to do. The storys original URL now links to our autism topics page, which we believe now offers a strong record of clear thinking and skeptical coverage were proud of including the critical pursuit of others who continue to propagate the debunked, and dangerous, autism-vaccine link.
http://www.salon.com/2011/01/16/dangerous_immunity/
See also here, here, here, here and many many other places besides for an overview of the actual science and the results of many studies relating to mercury, thimerosal, vaccination, and autism (helpful hint: repeated studies have found no link whatever). For further info re the fraudulent link between vaccination and autism, see here (exposé on the research fraud behind the original study claiming a vaccine/autism link).
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Glad to see you seem to know as much about vaccines as you do about radiation.
NuclearDem
Sep 2014
#53
RFK Jr is a great Democrat, the son of another great Democrat who would be so proud of
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#58
He's not against vaccines. That's a lie spun by people who can only think in black and white.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#18
Yeah, I've been "told" that by lots of fake experts. Martha Hebert, the professor in neurobiology
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#33
You've been listening to too many Big Pharma shills. JFK Jr is not against vaccines, no matter how
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#60
It's a shame when one goes out on a crazy limb (anti-vax) and has it taint all their other good work
NightWatcher
Sep 2014
#5
Apparently you can't point out his asshattery when it comes to being an anti-vaxxer
zappaman
Sep 2014
#6
Because many people, you included, don't know that he doesn't just have "great stuff to say"
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#13
pnwmom… I think you waste your time with some of the carrot stroker remarks you're getting...
MrMickeysMom
Sep 2014
#57
So too bad he's so against the "science" of the oh so valuable mountaintop removal efforts...
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#30
That's irrelevant to his position on vaccines, which is still wrong and dangerous.
Spider Jerusalem
Sep 2014
#32
His position is that mercury shouldn't be added to vaccines that pregnant women and children get.
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#47
I can understand that there is a debate on this, and he may perhaps really have a weak argument...
cascadiance
Sep 2014
#49
Like you, I don't have a great deal of knowledge of this subject, though I might have to change that
sabrina 1
Sep 2014
#61
I do because a mountain of scientific research since Wakefield's original fraud has said otherwise.
NuclearDem
Sep 2014
#38
Mercury is a neurotoxin, and it's added to flu vaccines that pregnant women and small children
pnwmom
Sep 2014
#46
You'd do better wasting your time teaching a pig to sing than to reason with her.
hobbit709
Sep 2014
#56