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deutsey

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22. Of all the non-issues in the world right now
Fri Sep 26, 2014, 06:03 AM
Sep 2014

this one is the non-iest, as Jon brilliantly demonstrates.

My only wish had been that he put "the salute" in more of a historical context. Reagan is the first president who started saluting military personnel, although he was advised not to do it (as TaskandPurpose.com describes it):

But here’s the issue: There’s no regulation that stipulates presidents must salute the troops. In fact, for the first 192 years of our republic, it didn’t happen. None of the first 38 commanders in chief did it. And some of those dudes had some serious military experience. Eisenhower? Grant? I mean, Teddy Roosevelt was a war hero. Surely he felt compelled to click his heels together and cut a perfect knife-handed salute when he passed a uniform service member, right? Wrong. It was literally something that Ronald Reagan made up one day.

In Rachel Maddow’s 2011 book “Drift,” which offers a fascinating look at how modern presidents commit the military to war, Maddow describes how upon entering the White House in 1981, Reagan began saluting every uniformed service member he saw. One of his military aides, a Marine officer named John Kline, who is now a Republican congressman from Minnesota, worried that Reagan’s new ritual was inappropriate. He voiced his concerns directly with the president. Maddow writes:

Soldiers were supposed to salute their president; the president was not supposed to salute the soldiers. No modern president, not even old General Eisenhower, had saluted military personnel. It might even be, well, sort of, improper. Reagan seemed disappointed at this news. Kline suggested he talk to the commandant of the United States Marine Corps and get his advice, and the commandant’s advice ran something like this: You’re the goddamn president. You can salute whoever you goddamn well please. So Ronald Reagan continued saluting his soldiers, and he encouraged his own vice president and successor, George H.W. Bush, to do the same. And every president since has followed.

http://taskandpurpose.com/sorry-presidential-salute-isnt-real-thing/

I think giving it that historical context would have even strengthened his case, instead of just leaving it at: "Well, Bush did it, too."

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Jon Stewart Puts Humor Aside... [View all] Greater Society Sep 2014 OP
Welcome to DU The Traveler Sep 2014 #1
Crooks and Liars has it.. and it is awesome.. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #2
Let 'em whine The Traveler Sep 2014 #4
Sweet republicon tears.. Cha Sep 2014 #23
Thanks for the link. I admire Jon's tone in this matter. That was some creepy shit on FOX. nt adirondacker Sep 2014 #16
Ditto! spooky3 Sep 2014 #30
Welcome to DU. Cleita Sep 2014 #3
Welcome to D.U. Greater Society and I agree it was a thing of beauty. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #5
Thanks to all... Greater Society Sep 2014 #6
Eric Bolling is such a despicable fuckwit Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #7
Is that the Fox asshole... Greater Society Sep 2014 #8
Fakz Noose is hypocrisy central Triana Sep 2014 #12
He is one of the dozen assholes on that fox Half-Century Man Sep 2014 #13
Proving once again ... NanceGreggs Sep 2014 #9
Welcome to DU! Triana Sep 2014 #10
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Perfect! mimi85 Sep 2014 #15
Welcome to DU! nt valerief Sep 2014 #14
Good that Jon puts humor aside for something important. delrem Sep 2014 #17
Welcome to DU! I totally agree, Fox News is a hate spreading machine that's done huge damage. SunSeeker Sep 2014 #18
Welcome to DU, Greater Society. Unknown Beatle Sep 2014 #19
Says a lot that some of the best commentary we have anymore woo me with science Sep 2014 #20
I have an old copy in a cookbook - of all places - with this. Not sure if it's the same one. raven mad Sep 2014 #31
Thank you. woo me with science Oct 2014 #34
Welcome aboard, Greater Society! Divernan Sep 2014 #21
Of all the non-issues in the world right now deutsey Sep 2014 #22
"The Only Salute That Matters.." Cha Sep 2014 #24
Stephen Colbert's humorous take was pretty darn good, too. tanyev Sep 2014 #25
That's hilarious. mnhtnbb Sep 2014 #26
Hashtag email! progressoid Sep 2014 #27
The best 7 minutes of TV and commentary in a long time. Hamlette Sep 2014 #28
He also blasted asshat Eric Bolling over that sexist bullshit "boobs on the ground" comment. Initech Sep 2014 #29
I like Jon and I appreciate his Fox takedowns, but when you're sending young people into harm's way Wella Sep 2014 #32
Welcome to DU. That certainly was an epic rant :) Electric Monk Sep 2014 #33
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