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Cali_Democrat

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1. "President Obama inherited a total clusterfuck with no good options."

Sat Sep 27, 2014, 07:28 AM

Sep 2014

WRONG.

Obama could have dismantled the military industrial complex.

Obama could have thrown Bush and Cheney in jail.

Obama could have had Congress kill defense spending completely and totally.

Obama could have had single payer pass Congress easily.

He just didn't try. DU knows how to get this shit done, but he just didn't listen.

Dude sold out....

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could any president have gotten away with NOT bombing ISIS? [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

"President Obama inherited a total clusterfuck with no good options." Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #1

do you ever post anything with any thought put into it? cali Sep 2014 #2

This seems Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #4

If you are familiar with the poster's history, morningfog Sep 2014 #15

No, it was more than fair. Too charitable frankly. nt Union Scribe Sep 2014 #16

You have your opinion Sherman A1 Sep 2014 #26

Very rude indeed and more a reflection of you than the topic poster 3rdwaydem Sep 2014 #28

I suppose it depends on what you consider to be "thought" Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #38

Could have dismantled the military industrial complex? brush Sep 2014 #29

Looking for ice cream & ponies. baldguy Sep 2014 #44

Maybe taking action to defend people from ISIS is actually the best option. randome Sep 2014 #3

Because I think discussing the constraints and pressures on Presidents cali Sep 2014 #8

Well said. randome Sep 2014 #10

that kind of is asking to prove a negative cali Sep 2014 #19

Yes. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #5

Thanks to the bush regime probably not liberal N proud Sep 2014 #6

Eventually someone would have had to go after them Renew Deal Sep 2014 #7

Maybe. Maybe not. cali Sep 2014 #12

Assuming that I support it is wrong Renew Deal Sep 2014 #13

but by the administration's own words we know that he does think that this will cali Sep 2014 #20

Hmmm.... Bragi Sep 2014 #25

it would have to be an extraordinary president Enrique Sep 2014 #9

I think we agree for a change. In particular about the "clusterfuck with no good options part." stevenleser Sep 2014 #11

but criticism of the actual policy; it's ramifications, the possible cali Sep 2014 #21

Largely agree. When there are nothing but bad geek tragedy Sep 2014 #14

We live in a stupid, frightened culture Union Scribe Sep 2014 #17

I don't know anyone who is afraid of ISIS. Do you? randome Sep 2014 #18

I think there's a ton of evidence that a lot of folks are scared by ISIS cali Sep 2014 #22

I Doubt It, Ma'am The Magistrate Sep 2014 #23

�if you break it, you own it� - Colin Powell Shankapotomus Sep 2014 #24

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Peacetrain Sep 2014 #27

At the Pottery Barn, if you break some of their merchandise, you pay the price of the merchandise amandabeech Sep 2014 #37

From President Obama's actions in the past I do not think he is inclined to jump up and bomb and Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #30

Not a chance. After those beheading videos even some anti-war progressives were for going in brush Sep 2014 #31

I doubt it. The invasion of Iraq and the destabilization of Syria created a power vacuum that ISIS Douglas Carpenter Sep 2014 #32

Americans want their killing and they want it now. We are nothing unless JEB Sep 2014 #33

Well, ISIS certainly isn't interested in 'working out our differences', are they? randome Sep 2014 #35

We willing sink to any level. JEB Sep 2014 #45

No. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. jwirr Sep 2014 #34

He could have not bombed ISIS, but the establishment would have called him weak and feckless Chathamization Sep 2014 #36

Sure, if ISIS were located a bit farther south and west in Africa... (nt) Recursion Sep 2014 #39

true enough. cali Sep 2014 #40

Shoot first, deal with the aftermath. SomethingFishy Sep 2014 #41

Are there two of you? ieoeja Sep 2014 #42

If you are correct that what Obama has chosen to do will make things worse, Vattel Sep 2014 #43

Sure. LWolf Sep 2014 #46

Doesn't make a rat's ass who is POTUS, JEB Sep 2014 #47

The military industrial complex is the one that calls all the shots. Initech Sep 2014 #48

short-time-President ...--->... short time thinking ... quadrature Sep 2014 #49