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In reply to the discussion: Stuff that never happened [View all]grantcart
(53,061 posts)80. You cannot strike down the mandates and keep the rest.
That is called 'adverse selection' and would result in the immediate collapse of the insurance industry.
If there were no mondates BUT the insurance companies were REQUIRED to take all applicants with no regard to prior history then everyone would drop their health insurance and only get it again when they were sick, dropping it when they were better.
The insured pool would include lower and lower risks and that would result in astronomical premiums.
You could pass some of the changes in the health bill but you cannot take out just the mandates, keep all of the other requirements and have a viable system.
The trade off for having an open enrollment with no preconditions and 100% acceptence is mandating an inclusive risk pool
This is true whether it is private insurance or if it was a single payer system like Medicare.
Generally private insurers do not think that it will be struck down because the fundamental basis of law would also apply to social security and medicare, which are not voluntary plans.
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He signed the repeal of DADT (thus eliminating it- and the ban on gay and lesbian service members)
Proud Liberal Dem
Dec 2011
#106
Well, if you are going to post "stuff that never happened" these need to be included.
comipinko
Dec 2011
#13
That's twice you have stated that the insurance companies don't like the health care reform act.
A Simple Game
Dec 2011
#101
The President doesn't swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution?
gratuitous
Dec 2011
#24
The moment you blamed Obama over Gitmo, that was a dead giveaway that you are disingenious.
phleshdef
Dec 2011
#44
Wall Street Reform? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL (how's that MF Global working out?)
stockholmer
Dec 2011
#105
There are plenty of liberals and intellectuals working honest jobs in the financial sector.
phleshdef
Dec 2011
#48
I stated no such premise. The OP posted a bunch of alleged facts. I checked one of them.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2011
#58
Even if OP said something wrong (which they didn't), your so called fact check fails.
phleshdef
Dec 2011
#60
The evidence that your data expresses anything about the alleged hatred is lacking.
phleshdef
Dec 2011
#64
oddly the op put up other data along similar lines to substantiate his claim
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2011
#69
Some people thought that he would eventually come out in favor of marriage equality
Nye Bevan
Dec 2011
#47
Statements in support of Civil Rights for ALL Americans are support for marriage equality. He's the
patrice
Dec 2011
#86
"It was rumored that he was going to destroy Social Security, but he hasn't.."
Scurrilous
Dec 2011
#59
Not a small tax but about 7% employee contribution and 7% employer contribution would - that is what
grantcart
Dec 2011
#91
He was never going to appoint Elizabeth Warren and the Consumer Protection Agency
grantcart
Dec 2011
#79
The Dems in WI probably would not want it... Just as they have no candidates for the recall yet...
reACTIONary
Dec 2011
#110
The Republicans have dedicated their party to defeating Obama regardless of the carnage.
olegramps
Dec 2011
#102