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CrispyQ

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40. I agree with this:

Sun Sep 28, 2014, 11:03 AM

Sep 2014

"...it will take a depression twice as bad as the '30s to finally get their attention."

Real wealth are things like equity in your house, very little debt, enough money in the bank to get you through at least six months of no income, ability to pay for college without going into debt. The Heritage Foundation says that America's poor are not doing so badly cuz they have a car, a DVD and a microwave. These are trinkets, not wealth. Americans are trinket rich & equity poor. Sadly, there are a lot of American's who feel this way - that if someone has a computer with internet access they are not really poor. They also refuse to recognize how disadvantaged one is in today's society if you don't have digital access.

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Bernie Sanders: Longterm Democratic strategy is �pathetic�{INTERVIEW} [View all] xchrom Sep 2014 OP

The wheels of the bus will go round and round. nt adirondacker Sep 2014 #1

Bernie is still trying to bring the Reagan Democrats back home. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #2

Good Point but walkingman Sep 2014 #7

the media has done such a great job of exploiting rurallib Sep 2014 #12

I agree with this: CrispyQ Sep 2014 #40

Unfortunately BlindTiresias Sep 2014 #81

Watch some of these videos of Bernie Sanders. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #94

my uncle was a self made multi millionaire marym625 Sep 2014 #121

They Won't Vote Democratic No Matter How Bad It Gets AndyTiedye Sep 2014 #103

When it happens the "low-information" voter will balme the Dems. Boomerproud Sep 2014 #107

It doesn't make sense. CANDO Sep 2014 #39

They pipe in sublimity's, while talking out of both sides of their mouth . orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #83

I heard a talk by Gore Vidal years ago. WinstonSmith4740 Sep 2014 #105

Bernie is simply telling the truth. Something has gone very wrong with sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #29

The Powers That Be have been very successful in driving a wedge between the poor, disadvantaged rhett o rick Sep 2014 #41

Well said. They have managed to divide the poor from the working class to a great extent. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #43

The problem Sen Sanders faces is that he needs a strong political party behind him and I am afraid rhett o rick Sep 2014 #52

Good analysis Rhett. And here's the contradiction in the stand taken by sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #55

You said a lot there. "They pass the test of what it means to be a liberal by claiming to support rhett o rick Sep 2014 #73

Excellent post. We need to point out more and more that what we have today is not JDPriestly Sep 2014 #96

+1 You nailed it. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #70

Postmodern consumer capitalism. earthside Sep 2014 #80

Let's get Sanders' videos out there and to our friends and neighbors. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #95

+1! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #68

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #67

That is the problem with the Reagan Dems, they still think they are always right Rex Sep 2014 #38

It's not about bringing them back home... Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #123

The decline of labor unions has hurt greatly. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #127

Ever since Ronnie Raygun convinced them that The Blacks were taking something Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2014 #129

I don't think the long term Democratic strategy is what Bernie thinks it should be. djean111 Sep 2014 #3

I did't realize Dems had any long-term strategy. Triana Sep 2014 #8

Oh, I think we just supposed to keep voting for them, no matter what their policies are, djean111 Sep 2014 #13

I think their long term strategy is to keep going for the Corporate Funding, and pushing sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #30

This. ^^^ CrispyQ Sep 2014 #44

Its justice on the cheap... shaayecanaan Sep 2014 #128

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #48

Yes, they are marginalized and eventually no longer there. See Feingold eg. sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #51

Exactly! Veilex Sep 2014 #53

Seems that is the plan....if there is one. KoKo Sep 2014 #102

LOL (if there was actually something to laugh about) Boomerproud Sep 2014 #108

This is the Democrat's long-term strategy: Maedhros Sep 2014 #122

Serious answer, match the GOP in fundraising and let demographics take care of the rest... Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #124

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #15

I'm sorry - I do not believe that any more. djean111 Sep 2014 #16

With a due respect ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #18

Probably not. The thought that what s good for citizens is just traded away for political ends djean111 Sep 2014 #24

We'll never be happy with job destroying free trade deals Enthusiast Sep 2014 #71

We did that, we still do it. So how, since 2006 when we began to win doing exactly that sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #31

+10000000 Veilex Sep 2014 #50

+1 The infiltrators keep whispering that. woo me with science Sep 2014 #47

K&R.... daleanime Sep 2014 #4

Well he's not a Democrat treestar Sep 2014 #5

He's more of a Democrat than a lot of the clowns with a D after their name. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #6

Again, why does he not use his superior strategy to get people to vote Socialist treestar Sep 2014 #11

Come to think of it, either the current Dems in charge, or wanting to be in charge, djean111 Sep 2014 #14

then join it treestar Sep 2014 #82

How funny - the things I want used to be Democratic things. djean111 Sep 2014 #88

no you have to convince other people to think like you do treestar Sep 2014 #89

one more time: Bernie is an Independent. He doesn't belong to a socialist party cali Sep 2014 #23

Indeed! Veilex Sep 2014 #58

Then how is he going to ever see his agenda enacted? treestar Sep 2014 #84

Anybody can run as a Democrat in the primaries, and I hope Bernie will. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2014 #91

Can we assume that you didn't actually read the interview? RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #97

Actually, I thought he did a very good job of answering that in the interview salib Sep 2014 #104

That's very general treestar Sep 2014 #106

I do not think he limited it to the Presidency salib Sep 2014 #115

Why doesn't the Democratic Party use their superior status to get people to sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #32

Because they are made up of the people they are made up of treestar Sep 2014 #85

Building the Socialist party comes at the expense of Democrats. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #45

"People outside it don't get to tell it anything." Veilex Sep 2014 #54

Because he isn't an idiot. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #19

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #60

You have to get enough voters treestar Sep 2014 #87

He doesn't belong to the Socialist party. cali Sep 2014 #22

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #61

You seem to have an issue with Bernie the Liberal. nt ChisolmTrailDem Sep 2014 #56

I find it interesting that the Conservative Wing of the Democratic Party fear rhett o rick Sep 2014 #59

"he reminds people what Democrats should stand for" - Exactly spot on! Veilex Sep 2014 #62

DAMN Right! hobbit709 Sep 2014 #64

Who is "the conservative wing"? YoungDemCA Sep 2014 #117

Where have you been? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #125

The National Democratic Party Strategy is to be the "not insane" Party n2doc Sep 2014 #9

Serious question ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #17

Frankly, because there is no media push for them n2doc Sep 2014 #20

Jessie Jackson not only survived quite a few Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #21

Do you think Jesse Jackson would ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #26

He absolutely was at the time. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #65

I'm talking today. eom 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #111

You asked a question. Warren Stupidity Sep 2014 #113

Not Today, But he sure was hell supported by the Left when he ran in the past. 2banon Sep 2014 #116

Because the current leadership of the Dem Party supports Corporate, Centrist candidates sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #33

"Why?" Money. n/t lumberjack_jeff Sep 2014 #46

"I have yet to see a candidate "threatening from the left, survive a primary" " Veilex Sep 2014 #69

We have to vote for a person treestar Sep 2014 #90

"People are not going to vote for someone for President who is against "the corporations." " Veilex Sep 2014 #92

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Sep 2014 #112

I think that's precisely Bernie's point... Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #126

America needs this man as President. 99Forever Sep 2014 #10

PLUS ONE, a huge bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #75

Why doesn't he join the Democratic Party so he can help formulate that strategy? George II Sep 2014 #25

Do you really think the Dem Leadership would accept him as their Presidential Candidate sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #35

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #72

*** L0oniX Sep 2014 #27

Awesome Pic L0oniX. Thanks for sharing! Veilex Sep 2014 #74

Well said and +1! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #77

^^^^This^^^ +1000 2banon Sep 2014 #114

Very true. For the last 15 years that I have been paying attention, the Democratic strategy TheDebbieDee Sep 2014 #28

And they've done it by adapting or caving to Republican policies. See our sabrina 1 Sep 2014 #37

K & R ctsnowman Sep 2014 #34

long term strategy is PNAC reddread Sep 2014 #36

I am beginning to like Bernie precisely because he is an outsider. JEB Sep 2014 #42

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #78

You can�t go through your life saying, �Hey, you think we�re bad! You should see them! RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #49

+1 Veilex Sep 2014 #79

"And people, believe me, they know it. They understand it." liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #57

Same as it has been for decades. Playing the "not as bad" card by moving right. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #63

Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #66

I just watched libodem Sep 2014 #76

One of our last allies. orpupilofnature57 Sep 2014 #86

I feel lucky to have him speak for us Babel_17 Sep 2014 #93

gop - the party of bad ideas, dems - the party of no ideas. KG Sep 2014 #98

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Sep 2014 #99

Will the Left or Right read this: freshwest Sep 2014 #100

A good article for gauging the mettle of Sanders Babel_17 Sep 2014 #101

Longterm Democratic strategy is �pathetic" -- That's a FEATURE, not a bug. Third Way calls the shots blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #109

We have a strategy? progressoid Sep 2014 #110

Yepper MissDeeds Sep 2014 #118

If the Democratic party DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #119

You have my vote! Nt newfie11 Sep 2014 #120