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GitRDun

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49. I am saying your point is wrong

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:55 AM

Sep 2014

We do have a globally competitive manufacturing base in this country, even though there are not as many manufacturing jobs in the US as we'd like.

Just because some jobs have moved overseas does not mean we don't have a lot of manufacturing here.

That being the case, it is fair to compare our pollution to the rest of the world.

The clap-trap is YOURS.

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The most air pollution is in what US city? [View all] GitRDun Sep 2014 OP

The above explains why California has long been in the forefront merrily Sep 2014 #1

Still sad that the majority of places are in blue areas in blue states yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #2

It's population density driving both. surrealAmerican Sep 2014 #3

I don't think it's population density. Calista241 Sep 2014 #32

you're right reddread Sep 2014 #35

LA doesn't nearly have the same amount of smog as it used to. Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #10

Agreed... Adsos Letter Sep 2014 #31

Yep. And they sure don't hurt, either. merrily Sep 2014 #33

I must admit, since 1987 Galileo126 Sep 2014 #4

It may be hard to comprehend, but LA basin in the sixties was worse - a LOT worse! Brother Buzz Sep 2014 #11

Yes, it was. I lived in L.A. from 1969-88 and air quality improved dramatically in that time. mnhtnbb Sep 2014 #34

sure was shanti Sep 2014 #55

It really has improved. herding cats Sep 2014 #16

Auto electronic ignition, catalytic converters, unleaded, and EFI. Eleanors38 Sep 2014 #45

I moved to Los Angeles in June of 1982. I use to drive home toward the upaloopa Sep 2014 #54

whose emissions? reddread Sep 2014 #5

Interesting GitRDun Sep 2014 #6

Nice strawman. NuclearDem Sep 2014 #7

lol reddread Sep 2014 #8

The background rad numbers in the Central Valley are thanks to the Sierra's. Xithras Sep 2014 #19

As a bonus, we have high levels of asbestos here in western El Dorado County. Throd Sep 2014 #22

Coalinga and Kettleman Hills. reddread Sep 2014 #26

very interesting, thanks! reddread Sep 2014 #23

The door to conspiracy theory land is 46 feet down to the left, the far left LOL snooper2 Sep 2014 #42

Our heavy industry has been decimated. amandabeech Sep 2014 #9

not really reddread Sep 2014 #12

Yes, some has moved to Mexico, but not all of it is on the border. amandabeech Sep 2014 #15

and we get their pollution reddread Sep 2014 #21

We're number 1!! Xithras Sep 2014 #13

I drove from LA to Sacramento last week. The air along the 5 in Kern County was horrible. Throd Sep 2014 #14

i have never ever seen anything like the dawn sky over Bakersfield one morning reddread Sep 2014 #20

Like the L.A. Basin............ Capt.Rocky300 Sep 2014 #28

A good portion of that pollution Le Taz Hot Sep 2014 #17

half of the top 20 worst cities for air pollution are in India kwassa Sep 2014 #18

another article on immediate predicaments reddread Sep 2014 #24

Some of the numbers don't mean much. former9thward Sep 2014 #25

I was having lunch with some RWs the other day and one spoke up and said we need to stop with Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #27

I live at 1800 feet and on a clear night I can see several of the valley cities tularetom Sep 2014 #29

Missoula, Montana has that air inversion problem too...when the pulp mills were allowed LiberalLoner Sep 2014 #30

The list is bullshit; we have *exported* our pollution to China, Mexico, elsewhere. Romulox Sep 2014 #36

We may have exported a portion of our pollution to China, Mexico GitRDun Sep 2014 #37

What point are you trying to argue? You segued from pollution to neoliberal clap-trap. Romulox Sep 2014 #38

"no jobs, no pollution"? reddread Sep 2014 #40

Outsourcing our industry has greater GREATER pollution, by exporting jobs to low regulation Romulox Sep 2014 #57

I am saying your point is wrong GitRDun Sep 2014 #49

OUR consumption drives overseas pollution, which is GREATER than it would be if we Romulox Sep 2014 #56

OUR consumption drives overseas pollution? GitRDun Sep 2014 #58

Spare me your Galtian garbage. You're a waste of time. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #59

Welcome to the ignore list GitRDun Sep 2014 #60

Sorry, but your ridiculous Right Wing nonsense isn't convincing. Your username surely doesn't help. Romulox Sep 2014 #61

I would not consider pm 2.5 to be a good indicator of pollution levels badtoworse Sep 2014 #39

the skew is the screws put by local politicians reddread Sep 2014 #41

You're missing the point badtoworse Sep 2014 #44

its the smaller stuff that gets ya, so we best pay attention reddread Sep 2014 #50

the real problem reddread Sep 2014 #53

I'll look around for that. GitRDun Sep 2014 #43

I disagree with your assertion that pm 2.5 is not a good measure of air quality. greatlaurel Sep 2014 #46

I found a ranking list you were interested in GitRDun Sep 2014 #47

Pollution regulation in the US was not a major cause of job moving overseas. greatlaurel Sep 2014 #48

I said "is one of the reasons the jobs left" not a major reason. GitRDun Sep 2014 #51

you should tell that to Fender reddread Sep 2014 #52

We import most of what we use each day. US consumers cause pollution in China, by buying Romulox Sep 2014 #62