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87. Fatherland, Motherland, Homeland....

Mon Sep 29, 2014, 01:16 PM

Sep 2014

Next up: Familyland.

Sounds like a theme park with really boring rides depicting suburbia.

Here's dad mowing the lawn, here's mom putting a pie in the window to cool, here's Jane playing with her dolls, and here's little Timmy jerking off in his treehouse to National Geographic.

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Time for the U.S. to Dump the Word "Homeland" [View all] xchrom Sep 2014 OP

I agree vt_native Sep 2014 #1

Yes, way too many Nazi-ish connotations. k&r, nt appal_jack Sep 2014 #2

Pisses me off liberalmike27 Sep 2014 #43

Agreed I hate the term "boots on the ground" It is design to remove the human out of the action of Heather MC Sep 2014 #48

Women serve too--"military personnel" or "military members" is a better choice, I think. MADem Sep 2014 #103

I agree-too Third Reich to me. Lifelong Protester Sep 2014 #80

totally agree. probably came from dhs. eom ellenfl Sep 2014 #82

It's Hitleresque. nt Snotcicles Sep 2014 #129

"Heimatland" Mira Sep 2014 #13

Yep, my exact thoughts too! Homeland is a very creepy term to use. I never understood why RKP5637 Sep 2014 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author Fla Dem Sep 2014 #90

As soon as I heard the term used, that's the thought that came to mind. Hate the term Homeland. Fla Dem Sep 2014 #91

Bush=Nazi billhicks76 Sep 2014 #92

It sometimes seems that way. silverweb Sep 2014 #109

Bush Sr Puppets billhicks76 Sep 2014 #151

Remember this from Cabaret? Control-Z Sep 2014 #111

Chilling. The awesome power of government propaganda. trof Sep 2014 #118

So chilling. Control-Z Sep 2014 #133

One of the best movies ever!!! And that scene was so chilling when I saw the movie japple Sep 2014 #124

The first time I heard the term "homeland" Control-Z Sep 2014 #141

One of my favorite scenes. bvf Sep 2014 #150

Sounds too much like the word motherland used by Hitler for Germany. . B Calm Sep 2014 #3

Try "fatherland" used for Germany brush Sep 2014 #10

The "Motherland" was/is Russia: WinkyDink Sep 2014 #53

Yes, it reminds me of "Mother Russia." lady lib Sep 2014 #78

I'd like to know who exactly in the shrubministration trusty elf Sep 2014 #4

Actually, it originated during the Clinton Admimistration onenote Sep 2014 #110

It was, sadly, Congressional Democrats who pushed for it. Recursion Sep 2014 #132

This again? Homeland is a fine word. aikoaiko Sep 2014 #5

For Native Peoples, perhaps PeoViejo Sep 2014 #7

For those of us who were BORN here, it's a perfect descriptor. n/t cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #25

It is taken from the term "Heimat," which is the German word for homeland. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #107

Doesn't seem so creepy to me... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #121

That is because you are not familiar with WWII history and have not listened to recordings of JDPriestly Sep 2014 #126

That you know my interest in or knowledge of history based on my fear or hatred (or lack thereof)... cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #154

The 'native' people migrated here, too. toby jo Sep 2014 #35

Not if one knows its historic connections. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #55

As is Ministry in place of Department. Six of one, half a dozen of the other... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #66

No it's not. WHEN CRABS ROAR Sep 2014 #131

Chris Matthews stonecutter357 Sep 2014 #6

Quit Watching a While Back liberalmike27 Sep 2014 #45

I think it's appropriate. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #8

I dislike it, but it implies American interests are both at home and abroad. HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #9

I agree, kinda clunky and . . . brush Sep 2014 #11

It's totally creepy. I believe there is some underlying deliberate intent, dog whistle maybe? GoneFishin Sep 2014 #12

I completely agree with you. stillwaiting Sep 2014 #14

Exactly. pablo_marmol Sep 2014 #86

Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer RVN VET Sep 2014 #40

I don't like it because it suggests "We are one voice...all working to make our country far better.. BlueJazz Sep 2014 #15

Another quick, cheap term Scalded Nun Sep 2014 #16

We're hearing it because of W, he put it into our minds and lives. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #17

It's much worse than that malaise Sep 2014 #18

+1.... KoKo Sep 2014 #26

+1 leftstreet Sep 2014 #68

... Arugula Latte Sep 2014 #84

! +1 INDEED ! . . . . .n/t annabanana Sep 2014 #117

I can never get that scene from the movie "Cabaret" out of my mind rurallib Sep 2014 #19

Agree.. I think of that scene every time I hear the word "homeland" mountain grammy Sep 2014 #64

Same here jberryhill Sep 2014 #65

'Homeland' does sound a lot like 'Deutschland' fascism. yallerdawg Sep 2014 #79

I hated it from the first time they used it. Wished then that they'd shraby Sep 2014 #20

1000 x agree! Mopar151 Sep 2014 #58

Long since past time bread_and_roses Sep 2014 #21

But we keep the dragnet style spying on every American, right??? nt Romulox Sep 2014 #22

Leaves the United out of United States grahamhgreen Sep 2014 #23

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! newfie11 Sep 2014 #24

Start tallying up the deaths we have caused since 2001... Moostache Sep 2014 #30

You are right newfie11 Sep 2014 #41

Creepy from the start Android3.14 Sep 2014 #27

It has made me nauseous from the first time I heard the word. PeoViejo Sep 2014 #28

Yes, it's past time, but it's not going to happen. merrily Sep 2014 #29

This is what I was thinking, they now have a whole department with "homeland" logosoco Sep 2014 #36

I don't know why Bushco chose it, but it reminds me of "fatherland." merrily Sep 2014 #42

I don't think Bushco did choose it. ieoeja Sep 2014 #46

Did the 1998 proposed Patriot Act use the term "homeland?" merrily Sep 2014 #59

I don't know. n/t ieoeja Sep 2014 #60

Remember, Buscho got a Homeland Security Act passed, too. merrily Sep 2014 #63

First used in a Clinton Presidential directive in 1998 onenote Sep 2014 #112

Interesting. merrily Sep 2014 #119

'Department of War' got renamed eventually Newsjock Sep 2014 #76

They could rename it Department of National Security (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2014 #93

That is the Department of Defense. logosoco Sep 2014 #94

The reason the two departments are not redundant... thesquanderer Sep 2014 #95

And the National Guard - not the Homeland Guard. colorado_ufo Sep 2014 #138

K&R for EXPOSURE! ReRe Sep 2014 #31

Just add an r... adirondacker Sep 2014 #32

only one place such a scam can end MisterP Sep 2014 #108

LOL! Never saw that one. Sognefjord Sep 2014 #116

Now THAT would be appropriate Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #125

I agree 1000%. femmocrat Sep 2014 #33

It is ingrained in me that the "bad guys" use that term. Bonhomme Richard Sep 2014 #34

When "homeland" first was used, I googled it on the web. cheyanne Sep 2014 #37

"Homeland" is a PNAC term. summerschild Sep 2014 #38

Yep, PNAC used the term in their 'Rebuilding America's Defenses' document. Live and Learn Sep 2014 #115

Never bought the term raindaddy Sep 2014 #39

The word makes me crazy proReality Sep 2014 #44

The "homeland" is an abstraction indicating a "new" US where the "old" constitution is dead. whereisjustice Sep 2014 #47

+1 F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #75

+1 -an excellent analysis nationalize the fed Sep 2014 #96

It was a very deliberate choice of term by BushCo. BlueMTexpat Sep 2014 #49

Yes. CrispyQ Sep 2014 #50

My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #51

WAAAY past time to dump this Fascist term. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #52

Tweety's right: "the Homeland" has a creepy, fascist tone to it. marble falls Sep 2014 #54

I am absolutely with you on this one!! Peacetrain Sep 2014 #56

Hate it hate it hate it. colorado_ufo Sep 2014 #57

The very first time I heard that term used just after 9/11 gave me the creeps. Conjured up Nazi 2banon Sep 2014 #62

There's a reason the neocons love it. Marr Sep 2014 #67

Nonsense. It's just a word. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #69

I hate it with all it's fascist connotations. I hate it right along with Ed Suspicious Sep 2014 #70

Straight Out Of The Third Reich colsohlibgal Sep 2014 #71

I hate the term too but wonder if it was a lame attempt at mimicing the name of BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #72

Yes please. blackspade Sep 2014 #73

Definitely. salib Sep 2014 #74

I have never approved of this term Gothmog Sep 2014 #77

It's always been creepy as hell. winter is coming Sep 2014 #81

It is... onyourleft Sep 2014 #83

I despise that word and cringe whenever I hear it Duer 157099 Sep 2014 #85

Fatherland, Motherland, Homeland.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #87

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Sep 2014 #88

I've hated word since the first time I heard it... Volaris Sep 2014 #89

Bush's grandfather, Prescott, is a convicted of treason due to funding the Nazi war machine. lark Sep 2014 #97

It's always been a creepy word. Reminds me of the Nazis. nt valerief Sep 2014 #98

It beats the fatherland jonjensen Sep 2014 #99

I despise the term "homeland." It makes me think of Adolf Hitler. Vinca Sep 2014 #100

I've hated it ever since they started using it right after 9/11. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2014 #101

I also wonder about the "Homeguard" in the old Babylon 5 tv show... cascadiance Sep 2014 #102

I never liked it either. Scott6113 Sep 2014 #104

I never liked it either. Scott6113 Sep 2014 #105

Homeland is a translation from the German word: Heimate. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #106

It's also a translation from the Swedish word "hemland". cherokeeprogressive Sep 2014 #155

I doubt that the Bush administration pulled that word out of the bag because they had heard JDPriestly Sep 2014 #157

There's nothing intrinsically wrong War Horse Sep 2014 #113

Does that mean the title of the TV show has to change, too? onenote Sep 2014 #114

Thank you!! I have said this for years!! knitter4democracy Sep 2014 #120

I've loathed it from the very moment it first appeared. Disgusting propaganda word. scarletwoman Sep 2014 #122

All neocons are fascist rat bastards sulphurdunn Sep 2014 #123

I'd rather we simply stop wars of profit for the MIC using TERRORISTSTS as the tool of fear. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #127

Meh...This board sure does have a nose sometimes for hopeless causes. BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #128

In days past, it would have been National Security. colorado_ufo Sep 2014 #136

Except the term was introduced by the Clinton Admin. pre-9/11, noted upthread BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #139

I'd substitute Motherland...because then we could have the best national anthem... DreamGypsy Sep 2014 #130

We would not have the best "national anthem"; we would have - perhaps the best - "motherland anthem. colorado_ufo Sep 2014 #137

Hey, I'd be willing to toss out... DreamGypsy Sep 2014 #140

Wir sprechen Deutsch. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #134

I agree Turbineguy Sep 2014 #135

Yes, please. Blue_In_AK Sep 2014 #142

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #143

It has fascist connotations. N/t roamer65 Sep 2014 #144

MOTHERLAND TheVisitor Sep 2014 #145

I still think we should call it the *K-GWB* lastlib Sep 2014 #146

hate it. spanone Sep 2014 #147

+1 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author Kablooie Sep 2014 #149

Time for the US to Dump tiptonic Sep 2014 #152

How did it take him 13 years to question this? mattclearing Sep 2014 #153

At one time Native Americans were immigrants, and some of us are well blended. gordianot Sep 2014 #156

Agreed. It's basically a prerequisite for xenophobia. n/t mattclearing Sep 2014 #158