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As many suspected, the Administration's justification for air strikes within Syria was all smoke and mirrors.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/09/28/u-s-officials-invented-terror-group-justify-bombing-syria/
As the Obama Administration prepared to bomb Syria without congressional or U.N. authorization, it faced two problems. The first was the difficulty of sustaining public support for a new years-long war against ISIS, a group that clearly posed no imminent threat to the homeland. A second was the lack of legal justification for launching a new bombing campaign with no viable claim of self-defense or U.N. approval.
The solution to both problems was found in the wholesale concoction of a brand new terror threat that was branded The Khorasan Group. After spending weeks depicting ISIS as an unprecedented threat too radical even for Al Qaeda! administration officials suddenly began spoon-feeding their favorite media organizations and national security journalists tales of a secret group that was even scarier and more threatening than ISIS, one that posed a direct and immediate threat to the American Homeland. Seemingly out of nowhere, a new terror group was created in media lore.
The solution to both problems was found in the wholesale concoction of a brand new terror threat that was branded The Khorasan Group. After spending weeks depicting ISIS as an unprecedented threat too radical even for Al Qaeda! administration officials suddenly began spoon-feeding their favorite media organizations and national security journalists tales of a secret group that was even scarier and more threatening than ISIS, one that posed a direct and immediate threat to the American Homeland. Seemingly out of nowhere, a new terror group was created in media lore.
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But once it served its purpose of justifying the start of the bombing campaign in Syria, the Khorasan narrative simply evaporated as quickly as it materialized. Foreign Policys Shane Harris, with two other writers, was one of the first to question whether the threat was anywhere near what it had been depicted to be:
But according to the top U.S. counterterrorism official, as well as Obama himself, there is no credible information that the militants of the Islamic State were planning to attack inside the United States. Although the group could pose a domestic terrorism threat if left unchecked, any plot it tried launching today would be limited in scope and nothing like a 9/11-scale attack, Matthew Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in remarks at the Brookings Institution earlier this month. That would suggest that Khorasan doesnt have the capability either, even if its working to develop it.
Khorasan has the desire to attack, though were not sure their capabilities match their desire, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told Foreign Policy.
On September 25, The New York Times just days after hyping the Khorasan threat to the homeland wrote that the groups evolution from obscurity to infamy has been sudden. And the paper of record began, for the first time, to note how little evidence actually existed for all those claims about the imminent threats posed to the homeland:
American officials have given differing accounts about just how close the group was to mounting an attack, and about what chance any plot had of success. One senior American official on Wednesday described the Khorasan plotting as aspirational and said that there did not yet seem to be a concrete plan in the works.
Literally within a matter of days, we went from perhaps in its final stages of planning its attack (CNN) to plotting as aspirational and there did not yet seem to be a concrete plan in the works (NYT).
But according to the top U.S. counterterrorism official, as well as Obama himself, there is no credible information that the militants of the Islamic State were planning to attack inside the United States. Although the group could pose a domestic terrorism threat if left unchecked, any plot it tried launching today would be limited in scope and nothing like a 9/11-scale attack, Matthew Olsen, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said in remarks at the Brookings Institution earlier this month. That would suggest that Khorasan doesnt have the capability either, even if its working to develop it.
Khorasan has the desire to attack, though were not sure their capabilities match their desire, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told Foreign Policy.
On September 25, The New York Times just days after hyping the Khorasan threat to the homeland wrote that the groups evolution from obscurity to infamy has been sudden. And the paper of record began, for the first time, to note how little evidence actually existed for all those claims about the imminent threats posed to the homeland:
American officials have given differing accounts about just how close the group was to mounting an attack, and about what chance any plot had of success. One senior American official on Wednesday described the Khorasan plotting as aspirational and said that there did not yet seem to be a concrete plan in the works.
Literally within a matter of days, we went from perhaps in its final stages of planning its attack (CNN) to plotting as aspirational and there did not yet seem to be a concrete plan in the works (NYT).
Indeed, after the air strikes were launched, the "Khorason Group" suddenly dropped back into obscurity:
Regarding claims that an attack was imminent, Comey said: I dont know exactly what that word means
imminent a rather consequential admission given that said imminence was used as the justification for launching military action in the first place.
Even more remarkable, it turns out the very existence of an actual Khorasan Group was to some degree an invention of the American government. NBCs Engel, the day after he reported on the U.S. governments claims about the group for Nightly News, seemed to have serious second thoughts about the groups existence, tweeting:

Indeed, a Nexis search for the group found almost no mentions of its name prior to the September 13 AP article based on anonymous officials. There was one oblique reference to it in a July 31 CNN op-ed by Peter Bergen. The other mention was an article in the LA Times from two weeks earlier about Pakistan which mentioned the groups name as something quite different than how its being used now: as the intelligence wing of the powerful Pakistani Taliban faction led by Hafiz Gul Bahadur. Tim Shorrock noted that the name appears in a 2011 hacked Stratfor email published by WikiLeaks, referencing a Dawn article that depicts them as a Pakistan-based group which was fighting against and expelled by (not led by) Bahadur.
Even more remarkable, it turns out the very existence of an actual Khorasan Group was to some degree an invention of the American government. NBCs Engel, the day after he reported on the U.S. governments claims about the group for Nightly News, seemed to have serious second thoughts about the groups existence, tweeting:

Indeed, a Nexis search for the group found almost no mentions of its name prior to the September 13 AP article based on anonymous officials. There was one oblique reference to it in a July 31 CNN op-ed by Peter Bergen. The other mention was an article in the LA Times from two weeks earlier about Pakistan which mentioned the groups name as something quite different than how its being used now: as the intelligence wing of the powerful Pakistani Taliban faction led by Hafiz Gul Bahadur. Tim Shorrock noted that the name appears in a 2011 hacked Stratfor email published by WikiLeaks, referencing a Dawn article that depicts them as a Pakistan-based group which was fighting against and expelled by (not led by) Bahadur.
. . .
What happened here is all-too-familiar. The Obama administration needed propagandistic and legal rationale for bombing yet another predominantly Muslim country. While emotions over the ISIS beheading videos were high, they were not enough to sustain a lengthy new war.
Nothing this Administration leaks or states regarding matters of war should be given any more credence than that spewed forth by the previous Administration.
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You see, there's an agenda at play here. I realize there are sympathizers in the West, or else....
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#21
You got that right. Bought & paid for. There's a name for it, but I won't mention it here.
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#79
Incredible isn't it? Stilted dribble trying to give the NSA/CIA pig a makeover.
whereisjustice
Sep 2014
#99
Just because he wears an aluminum hat doesn't mean there're no conspiracies.....
marble falls
Sep 2014
#20
Khorosan literally came out of nowhere. So, how do you explain it? I said in a post
ChisolmTrailDem
Sep 2014
#108
You do know that Khorosan is just a rebranding of old Senior AQ members, right?
Tarheel_Dem
Sep 2014
#111
Yeah. OK. Just laugh. But, remember when the Grenadian Navy invaded Miami?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Sep 2014
#2
"a major military bastion to export terror and undermine democracy. We got there just in time"
MisterP
Sep 2014
#12
They were a hairsbreadth away from launching an invading force of Grenadiers.
Jackpine Radical
Sep 2014
#27
the obama admin is just ready to lie to justify its fucked up foriegn policy as the last crew
KG
Sep 2014
#6
You put your right foot in, you put your right foot out, your put your right foot in & you shake it
misterhighwasted
Sep 2014
#9
Where is the info that discredits this? Leave out the GG bashing, that doesn't fly.
cui bono
Sep 2014
#143
I believe Richard Engel. Been watching him on Rachel for years. And if he is right like he usually
jwirr
Sep 2014
#11
I heard ISIS dumped babies out of their incubators and onto the cold floor. That true?
RufusTFirefly
Sep 2014
#19
i call bullshit. no reason for the crazy muslim nuts to align themselves. sadly, the bushevics
pansypoo53219
Sep 2014
#25
most of the posters in this thread never believed either..we've been there, done that
xiamiam
Sep 2014
#35
Terrorism experts believe that the actual danger posed by ISIS has been distorted in hours of TV
J_J_
Sep 2014
#32
Of course there is. It isn't rocket science. Do you think that when Obama became president
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#98
Let's say that the CiC tells Gen Clapper to do something he doesnt want to do. What happens if
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#97
What would happen if a president came out in a press conference and told it all?
cui bono
Sep 2014
#147
I don't see a way out to be honest. Doesn't mean I won't continue to fight
rhett o rick
Sep 2014
#151
Why would I do that when I just heard the POTUS explain his actions to me?
Dreamer Tatum
Sep 2014
#59
And his decision was not based on strong advise from his military advisors?
Dont call me Shirley
Sep 2014
#62
Huh? On 9/23, the President announced that he had started the bombing campaign against ISIL the
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#66
No he said Khoroasan, the group that is being touted as an imminent threat to the U.S.,
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#69
And he was lying, since the Obama admin never cited Khorasan as the justification for
geek tragedy
Sep 2014
#92
And Greenwald never said he cited Khorasan as the reason for starting another war.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#100
Except Obama is not using Khorasan as a justification of bombing Syria/ISIL.
geek tragedy
Sep 2014
#102
Why are we bombing ISIL without Congress or UN approval? By 9/22, it was universally
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#103
So we side step the Constitution and the UN over destabilization. Destabilization is not a LEGAL
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#106
Indeed. The oligarchs make their own reality. It is up to history to interpret it.
Luminous Animal
Sep 2014
#110
Don't forget "Babies Thrown Out of Incubators" Thanks to Hill & Knowlton
nationalize the fed
Sep 2014
#91
The responses to my thread had taken a weird turn, so I logged out to take a look
Maedhros
Sep 2014
#109
Article is Co-Authored with Murtaza Hussain..Here's Amy Goodman's Interview with Hussain re Article
KoKo
Oct 2014
#159