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stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
79. too funny
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:44 PM
Sep 2014

an intelligent and honest deconstruction of what GG wrote would be -- "in an effort to inject "imminence" into the bombing equation, and to at least attempt to satisfy the "legality" requirements under domestic law via the WPA and 2001 AUMF grounded in it, a "group" was disclosed..." He's not saying that bombing that group was the sole reason for all the bombing, nor that it's the reason why ISIL was attacked, he's saying that they've both been wrapped up into an appealing enchalada warmonger apologists are likely to swallow whole because the attack on the AQ-related group provides the tasty seasoning known as "imminence" that makes the entire effort palatable.

I'm sure GG is as bewildered -- as any intelligent and honest person would be -- as to how that made bombing inside another country "legal" under international law, when neither the bombing of the Taliban nor the SH forces in Iraq were on the same grounds -- a lack of a UNSC resolution authorizing it. Syria's gov has no more of a role in the efforts of those bombed than the Taliban did with the actions of AQ here.

But I suppose that attacking GG is more important than taking license with the law in this instance, since it's a dem pres, no?

GG didn't "Lie", he just apparently uses rhetoric some have difficulty properly deconstructing, or in the alternative, lack sufficient objectivity to even try due to GGDS.

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Just call him The Pied Piper. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #1
we could call you the pied piper of ad hominem TheSarcastinator Sep 2014 #3
Well, you certainly could. Oh, and welcome back. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2014 #6
your ad hominem attack is neither accurate nor impressive TheSarcastinator Sep 2014 #2
You need to look up "ad hominem". This was a direct annhilation of Greenwald's credibility by the OP phleshdef Sep 2014 #26
There are some direct annihilations of credibility going on in this thread Aerows Sep 2014 #32
Wasn't the Sarcastinator replying to Reply #1, not the OP? merrily Sep 2014 #108
I trust neither Greenwald nor the government on this topic arcane1 Sep 2014 #4
Trust your own brain. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #5
Intelligence is assessing facts. Aerows Sep 2014 #8
no...wisdom is knowledge and good judgement.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #62
Knowledge is: Tomatoes are fruits. Wisdom is: Don't put tomatoes in your fruit salad. nt Electric Monk Sep 2014 #71
"be skeptical towards any agenda-driven narratives" Union Scribe Sep 2014 #14
People should read the material I geek tragedy Sep 2014 #20
The problem comes when every narrative has an agenda behind it :( arcane1 Sep 2014 #15
Your narrative AgingAmerican Sep 2014 #115
When you see the same Aerows Sep 2014 #7
Greenwald misrepresented basic facts . geek tragedy Sep 2014 #11
I'm seeing some misrepresentation of facts, lately Aerows Sep 2014 #18
Was Bush lying when he claimed Saddam had used geek tragedy Sep 2014 #25
So are you. n/t Aerows Sep 2014 #27
Not sure I understand that claim. nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #29
I don't understand yours, either, so we are even. n/t Aerows Sep 2014 #30
So what is Obama's motive for doing what Greenwald claims? MohRokTah Sep 2014 #47
of course not.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #64
That never stopped him before. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #84
"No imminent threat"? randome Sep 2014 #9
You don't have faith the NSA will keep us safe? nt Union Scribe Sep 2014 #13
Oh my. Aerows Sep 2014 #19
No NSA booster, here. randome Sep 2014 #22
No dog in this show! Aerows Sep 2014 #28
Oh! That's gonna leave a mark, too! randome Sep 2014 #34
Nah. Aerows Sep 2014 #35
Imminent threat is the legal standard, both domestically and internationally, for Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #55
It all depends on what the merrily Sep 2014 #109
"boots on the ground" can still be twisted into "police action" Cayenne Sep 2014 #130
Police Action, advising, and my personal favorite "Era," merrily Oct 2014 #134
seriously, dude. preventive war is what we got in iraq. Vattel Sep 2014 #76
it just comes off as kind of sad now JI7 Sep 2014 #10
The bombs are never fake Union Scribe Sep 2014 #12
Certainly describing the President as a "war pig" geek tragedy Sep 2014 #24
Truth! mimi85 Sep 2014 #101
Some lap up whatever pablum that Libertarian nutbag writes. eom MohRokTah Sep 2014 #16
+1000 Historic NY Sep 2014 #42
I will double that! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #65
Or the Saudis. ret5hd Sep 2014 #89
+1. Exactly. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #49
Oh… MrMickeysMom Sep 2014 #95
I must be missing something gratuitous Sep 2014 #17
LOL It's a Centcom Haiku leftstreet Sep 2014 #21
If you want to argue that the media and government geek tragedy Sep 2014 #23
Or . . . gratuitous Sep 2014 #31
Your theory is not what Greenwald claimed nor geek tragedy Sep 2014 #36
hahahahaha....Yeah...that is President Obama..."indiscriminate"... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #66
Um...just because you didn't hear of them doesn't mean I didn't....a decade ago. msanthrope Sep 2014 #44
The name doesn't even show up on the UN's terror list. Luminous Animal Sep 2014 #58
"weasel-speak" G_j Sep 2014 #112
I'm being reminded of a cartoon gratuitous Sep 2014 #116
Greenwald is doing reporting Enrique Sep 2014 #33
No, he 's telling you what you want to believe. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #38
Disagree. I think it's opinion, not reporting... DonViejo Sep 2014 #39
Reporting from a safe distances.... Historic NY Sep 2014 #45
Greenwald wants Rand Paul to be the President. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #37
Indeed, you have lived up to your name MannyGoldstein Sep 2014 #43
Oh my. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #53
Hahaha!!! That's a good one. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #83
Based upon his DU following, I would estimate between 3 and 5% of DU will be... MohRokTah Sep 2014 #48
My answer is F-CK them both. Historic NY Sep 2014 #72
No kidding. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #81
Yep, joined at the hip. mimi85 Sep 2014 #103
Well if you wont believe Greenwald You might believe Andrew C. Mcarthy............ wandy Sep 2014 #40
That was a thing of beauty, wandy. (n/t) OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #56
Excellent post. nt Bobbie Jo Sep 2014 #70
Thank you. 840high Sep 2014 #73
Well done, thanks. n/t emulatorloo Sep 2014 #87
So...lying makes lying the truth? jeff47 Sep 2014 #91
Well juggling lies is a lot like juggling apples......... wandy Sep 2014 #92
Jesus Christ! It's almost the same script, almost verbatim. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #100
I have found this to be a common factor over much........... wandy Sep 2014 #105
I have noticed the exact same thing re: stevenleser Sep 2014 #119
Sean Hannity used to send out an e-mail every morning regarding GOP talking points Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #122
We may not be the only ones who have noticed. Thom Hartman has his view of this..... wandy Sep 2014 #123
I trust Greenwald as much as I trust Ted Cruz. mimi85 Sep 2014 #102
I LOVE First Look at Me Media! OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #41
Wasn't he supposed to reveal something extraordinary? Name names, or something. LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #46
Yeah we are still waiting for THOSE shifts in the Tectonic Plates! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #68
"When will people stop placing their naïve trust in this con man?" Chan790 Sep 2014 #50
Right on. flamingdem Sep 2014 #93
Or the New York Post or Huffpo. nt mimi85 Sep 2014 #104
K&R. n/t FSogol Sep 2014 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Sep 2014 #52
Because like Fox News does for their audience.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #54
Yes he does indeed prove that some suckers will believe anything Autumn Sep 2014 #57
Where exactly was Greenwald's big lie? Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #59
Actually, when Bush was bombing Al Qaeda instead of Iraq he had wide support geek tragedy Sep 2014 #98
Actually, when I started reading this forum in 2003 there was widespread criticism of the wars. Threedifferentones Sep 2014 #111
Greenwald is claiming Khorasan was fabricated to provide geek tragedy Sep 2014 #117
Must suck to have your brain regularly spanked by people like Greenwald. Marr Sep 2014 #60
The only brains Greenwald is spanking.....are of the people that pay attention to his nonsense.... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #69
Thank you karynnj Sep 2014 #61
You seem to imply that you agree with Greenwald that Obama's attacks on ISIS are illegal. Vattel Sep 2014 #63
They US justification is that they are defending Iraq. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #97
The point about the absence of an adverse legal party is well-taken. Vattel Sep 2014 #110
It's not debatable. It's a legal war. States are allowed to petition other states to... stevenleser Sep 2014 #120
I think it is more complicated than that. Vattel Sep 2014 #124
Syria has been notified and they have not complained to the UN or any international agency. stevenleser Sep 2014 #127
I see your point and you might be right. Still, not saying no doesn't mean yes. Vattel Sep 2014 #128
If you wish to believe the Pentagon and the CIA, given their histories, go ahead n2doc Sep 2014 #67
Greenwald is blatantly lying about the admin's justifications. What he says their justification for geek tragedy Sep 2014 #99
Without reading the body of the OP Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #74
If it were an Obama bashing thread Andy823 Sep 2014 #85
Lol. I didn't even read the OP. Just checked the recs -yup, the usual tribe. riderinthestorm Sep 2014 #113
I was initially going to set the number at 26.5 Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #114
Hmmm...missing a few names. Rex Sep 2014 #121
I need to start putting in a time limit on my O/U lines Capt. Obvious Sep 2014 #125
I trust my President (TM) FlatStanley Sep 2014 #75
What Greenwald said matches the quotes you provided...not seeing the "lie" here... Chathamization Sep 2014 #77
I absolutely detest lying pieces of shit. Let's get to the bottom of this. DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2014 #78
Right here. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #96
too funny stupidicus Sep 2014 #79
Nah, suckers believing just about anything is a time honored tradition. Rex Sep 2014 #80
Is That Your Completely Unbiased Opinion ??? WillyT Sep 2014 #82
Funny thing is Andy823 Sep 2014 #86
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #88
Can you say that on here? Turbineguy Sep 2014 #90
Let's not forget that they did a decent feigned maneuver by saying they're going after Isis flamingdem Sep 2014 #94
Khorason is not a new mystery group gwheezie Sep 2014 #106
No denials about the NSA, though. merrily Sep 2014 #107
K&R nt Andy823 Sep 2014 #118
The one problem is that nothing that you write in your post shows that Greenwald and Hussein Maedhros Sep 2014 #126
Greenwald blatantly lied about Obama needing Khorosan to justify bombing ISIL. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #133
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #129
Nice wingnut garbage lies from two years ago. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #132
Totally unsurprising that right wing lies are used to prop up Greenwald. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #138
I don't get the outrage MFrohike Sep 2014 #131
I think #2 is why some BOG members have been so ultra-defensive on this issue. Electric Monk Oct 2014 #135
Heh Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #137
I don't trust Greenwald in any way. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #136
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