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117. Statistically there is a greater chance that a person or his/her pet

Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:45 PM

Sep 2014

might be shot/strangled/tazed/killed by a police officer then be the victim of a terrorist attack in the US.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/police-killings-data/14060357/

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/police-shootings-michael-brown-ferguson-black-men

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/09/08/how-many-police-shootings-a-year-no-one-knows/

http://jimfishertruecrime.blogspot.com/2012/01/police-involved-shootings-2011-annual.html

http://www.denverpost.com/timtebow/ci_26625153/cu-boulder-police-use-taser-shoplifting-suspect-say

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/09/portland_jury_awards_to_man_be.html

http://jobs.aol.com/videos/what-its-like/must-see-police-use-taser-on-pregnant-woman/517734827/

http://www.mintpressnews.com/cop-slams-pregnant-woman-to-the-ground-and-uses-taser-on-her-belly/196929/

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475
Man Dies in Police Raid on Wrong House

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/staten-island-man-dies-puts-choke-hold-article-1.1871486

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/horror-cops-tackle-beat-pepper-spray-pin-suffocate-kill-innocent-man/

http://www.policestateusa.com/2013/police-kill-80-year-old-man-in-his-bed-after-claiming-his-house-smelled-like-meth/

http://www.innocentdown.org/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/lapd-accused-shooting-man-special-complying-orders-article-1.1902035

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-wrong-address-killed-innocent-man-charged/

Family Wins Record $10 Million Dollars When Cop Slams Innocent Man Causing Coma!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.copblock.org%2F4308%2Fcop-who-paralyzed-man-for-life-continues-to-be-violent%2F&ei=h-oqVO6sNJOzyASS8YKwBg&usg=AFQjCNEUeVQQyA0Pb4LYXi15A0BNOAAdag&sig2=A9Vcbw-isWcme0_fWvezHA

Police Brutality Leaves Man Mentally Disabled

Cop Tackles The Wrong Guy And Leaves Him Paralyzed!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/09/us/south-dakota-taser-lawsuit/index.html
Using a Taser on an 8-year-old? Mom sues police, city

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-berates-cops-dog-shot-dead-fenced-in-backyard-article-1.1845699

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If you're not afraid of a terrorist attack by militant Jihadists, you're a fool [View all] cali Sep 2014 OP

It is the *overreaction* I'm afraid of villager Sep 2014 #1

i am afraid of the attack. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #2

The government LOVES you! nt Logical Sep 2014 #5

Well i am very lovable! hrmjustin Sep 2014 #7

They want the public scared. Congrats. nt Logical Sep 2014 #53

I am scared because i live in a target. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #54

What target? NYC? nt Logical Sep 2014 #55

yes.n/t. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #56

Thanks goodness 911 was a one time only plan. Would not work again. nt Logical Sep 2014 #58

You don't know that. besides it does not have to be big like that. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #59

Yeah, only time ever terrorists targeted NYC. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #70

A lot of planning. No real action! And some of it two guys.... Logical Sep 2014 #72

1995 was more than planning. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #73

Keep believing the wire tap keeps you safe..... Logical Sep 2014 #75

None of that stuff stopped the Boston Marathon bombing. n/t Jamastiene Sep 2014 #89

Funny how this paragraph was ignored by you.... Logical Sep 2014 #76

People worry here in NYC because it is a real threat here. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #77

Though I don't live there F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #78

Well, if daily kos says I have nothing to worry leftynyc Sep 2014 #82

I am not paniced but when I get on buses and trains it is in the back of my mine. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #97

Late to this thread leftynyc Sep 2014 #81

I live in one too, WAY more worried about car accidents Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #94

Yes, you are. In_The_Wind Sep 2014 #121

35 times more likely to be killed by the police than a terrorist. hobbit709 Sep 2014 #86

That may be true but i think it is still an issue in NYC. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #98

Yep, they love to go after NYC. :-( stevenleser Sep 2014 #109

This NYC resident is with you. JaneyVee Sep 2014 #132

I was ready to argue with you and then read your perfect point! The reaction is worse than.... Logical Sep 2014 #3

I'm not afraid of a terrorist attack gratuitous Sep 2014 #4

Really? OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #14

LOL! VanillaRhapsody Sep 2014 #25

Which terrorist attacks has the Obama administration fabricated? Nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #71

They will also spare no expense jamzrockz Sep 2014 #6

Spot on Bro Caretha Sep 2014 #32

That's the bullshit they want you to believe. PeteSelman Sep 2014 #8

Recommended. H2O Man Sep 2014 #9

Yes, absolutely. Jackpine Radical Sep 2014 #37

I am far more afraid of the police avebury Sep 2014 #10

I think you missed the point of the OP cali Sep 2014 #11

I don't think so. We already passed batshit crazy a while back as evidenced avebury Sep 2014 #15

so so true DustyJoe Sep 2014 #51

it took me a minute to get your point! a long day.... m-lekktor Sep 2014 #12

It has happened or its going to happen... Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #13

yeah,because we didn't entirely change the fabric of our society in the years following 9/11 cali Sep 2014 #26

Cali..this group did the PETN bomb attack, the BA bomb plot, and the msanthrope Sep 2014 #16

Nooooo...a few beheaded americans...who cares. Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #17

far better to go and kill thousands, or hundreds of thousands noiretextatique Sep 2014 #20

As long as the "death of a few" isnt you... Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #21

I agree....damn those Civilians Caretha Sep 2014 #34

Emotionally, yes. Ethically, no. DeadLetterOffice Sep 2014 #42

no, even if it is me, I don't want a military response with all of its costs. Vattel Sep 2014 #47

Well, we have a young one in training. Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #19

You missed the point. GeorgeGist Sep 2014 #46

Land of the brave, where exactly is this fabled land? Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #18

You have a good point. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2014 #22

There is a far greater chance of being struck by lightning or attacked by a shark than being killed world wide wally Sep 2014 #23

Excellent point. Louisiana1976 Sep 2014 #35

What is the mathematical probability of IronLionZion Sep 2014 #45

And that is the problem.... Us world wide wally Sep 2014 #68

Haha! Well played. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #24

The grandmother in Moore, OK probably never thought she would die in a terrorist Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #27

You got guts. Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #28

Where is the last one in the USA? Where are the terrorists actually? Where are the weekly..... Logical Sep 2014 #50

Did you read the post? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #65

Do you mind me asking where you live leftynyc Sep 2014 #83

Right behind you IronLionZion Sep 2014 #87

Agree. 840high Sep 2014 #60

Um...those were all *domestic* terrorists BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #85

Domestic? The guy in Moore, Oklahoma was trying to convert his co-workers to Islam before he was Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #99

The Internet is the danger. That's where they get their ideas from. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #101

They get their ideas from their own heads first. Jamastiene Sep 2014 #112

Still domestic though. Jamastiene Sep 2014 #111

Have I ever indicated we should start bombing mosques in America. Many are telling the radicals Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #127

Statistically there is a greater chance that a person or his/her pet avebury Sep 2014 #117

This does not negate the facts of acts of terrorism by radical groups, Tim McVeigh was a part of a Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #125

Those weren't terrorist attacks. philosslayer Sep 2014 #123

Do you know the facts in the Moore, Okla case? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #126

Well the FBI and the DOJ know more than either you or I philosslayer Sep 2014 #128

They may never characterized this as terrorist but the facts are the guy who beheaded the Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #129

So let's change this scenario... philosslayer Sep 2014 #130

Yes, it does not matter what religion he was pushing. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #135

"with the intention of intimidation or coercing societies or governments" philosslayer Sep 2014 #139

You may not view it as terror but for myself if I was intimidated by someone or something i Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #141

By your definition... philosslayer Sep 2014 #142

Yes violent crimes are terror, I will continue to hold violence is terror, to scare or intimidate Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #143

I do not fear for my personal safety from terrorists, by do fear you are correct ohnoyoudidnt Sep 2014 #29

We already have been: Oklahoma city , the olympics, remember? rustydog Sep 2014 #30

And of course our Government (and Media) does nothing but incite such over-reaction n2doc Sep 2014 #31

I am fed up with the blackmail being practiced. salib Sep 2014 #33

it's the last sentence heaven05 Sep 2014 #36

Not afraid of an attack per se. but I AM afraid of the US/M$M over-reaction ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Sep 2014 #38

I am more afraid of american terrorists larkrake Sep 2014 #39

It still irks me that our government refuses to call the Timothy McVeigh/Eric Rudolph Jamastiene Sep 2014 #114

The Feds don't need another "terra attack." They got rid of every law they didn't like after 9/11. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #40

I'm not afraid of a terrorist attack. Terra Alta Sep 2014 #41

I get your point bvf Sep 2014 #43

What if the militant jihadists use guns? IronLionZion Sep 2014 #44

Our own government is doing what your semi-serious question asks. Jamastiene Sep 2014 #115

My point exactly IronLionZion Sep 2014 #124

as long as you are referring to the reichwingnutjobs masquearading as the xian fundamentalists. niyad Sep 2014 #48

If you are not afraid of ISIS, you are truly a fool. About 3,000 Americans died on 9/11 .... kwassa Sep 2014 #49

911 could never happen again. Never. It was a one time shot. Where are the USA based.... Logical Sep 2014 #52

You forgot your sarcasm tag. kwassa Sep 2014 #57

Good point. 840high Sep 2014 #61

I ask this yearly...... Logical Sep 2014 #62

At least 45 potential terrorist attacks have been thwarted by our security forces. kwassa Sep 2014 #64

Many of those had zero chance of actually happening! And I do... Logical Sep 2014 #67

Not to mention some of those are suspect. F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #79

Whatever. Your premise that there is no threat is false, though. kwassa Sep 2014 #95

Then there's the guy who wanted to kill liberals so he shot up a Unitarian church in Knoxville. Manifestor_of_Light Sep 2014 #74

It is all terrorism, regardless of the source. kwassa Sep 2014 #96

And those towers were certainly leftynyc Sep 2014 #84

and the World Trade Center was attacked twice .... most forget the first attack. kwassa Sep 2014 #104

I pointed that out in another post leftynyc Sep 2014 #107

The one in 1993. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #145

Ten times that amount of people die from car accidents in the US every year Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #91

Until the terrorists smuggle in the nuclear device ... kwassa Sep 2014 #106

Basing your response on 24 and Tom Clancy novel scenarios is stupidity Hippo_Tron Sep 2014 #134

If I had based my response on that, it would be stupidity. kwassa Sep 2014 #140

Have you read the full 9/11 Report? CJCRANE Sep 2014 #102

No. Have you? kwassa Sep 2014 #105

No, because it hasn't been released. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #122

and your point is? kwassa Sep 2014 #133

We don't even know the full story CJCRANE Oct 2014 #144

Almost as it the former works toward the ends of the latter...hmmm. nt Romulox Sep 2014 #63

Call me a fool then............ Dyedinthewoolliberal Sep 2014 #66

I can do math. I'm afraid of car accidents and cancer. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #69

+1 F4lconF16 Sep 2014 #80

There is a difference between being afraid and Jamastiene Sep 2014 #88

I used to live in New York City Everything there was dark and dirty... mikehiggins Sep 2014 #90

Great post. Jamastiene Sep 2014 #110

IMO Mr Dixon Sep 2014 #92

That seems more like LWolf Sep 2014 #93

Nope, not personally afraid. bobclark86 Sep 2014 #100

you (and many others on this thread) confirm my suspicion that cali Sep 2014 #113

Oh, I read it... bobclark86 Sep 2014 #119

...and the home ...of ...the ...brave. L0oniX Sep 2014 #103

The over reaction is why they do it. JEB Sep 2014 #108

Hubby and I were just talking about this at lunch. He's more afraid of ebola. mnhtnbb Sep 2014 #116

To live in fear is wasting your life. abakan Sep 2014 #118

Kinda like burning down the forest to rid it of toadstools. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2014 #120

I don't know who I'm more afraid of, the jihadists or the ignorant public who snappyturtle Sep 2014 #131

Government reaction would be problematic. MadrasT Sep 2014 #136

I'm still waiting for the Soviets to drop the bomb dflprincess Sep 2014 #137

I am concerned about our potential response. But I do not fear an attack. nt RedCappedBandit Sep 2014 #138