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TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
16. no denying that
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:18 AM
Oct 2014

I'm just not seeing the point of bringing up a past that can't be changed that bares no relation to how things are today.

50 years ago was good and bad in a lot of ways. In 1963, for instance, one could work as a clerk in a drug store yet still be able to afford a home, a car, have a wife that didn't work and more children than couples normally have today. We had strong unions that even Republicans supported, people were valued as employees, we didn't send our jobs overseas or import foreign workers to do them, we didn't have an epidemic of homeless people, the wealthy were taxed at a FAR higher rate than the bloodsuckers are today, monied interest trying to bribe politicians for laws tailored to them was called bribery rather than lobbying, adults behaved like adults, people were much more civil and courteous to one another, there weren't dozens of crazed people with guns or bombs conducting mass murders, no drug epidemic, good public schools, people were actually proud to pay taxes, the media did what it was designed by the founders to do by being government watch keepers, we had no opinion in news reporting, Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather were anchors that acted adult rather than the screaming nuts that shout over each other today, etc., etc., etc.

Here's something that a DUer posted in another thread that should blow anyone's mind in how different in a good way we were just a mere seven years before 1963...



In some ways we've gotten better, but in other ways that effect far more people we've gotten so much worse.

k and r -- bookmarking for later too :) nashville_brook Oct 2014 #1
The Chicago Plot Octafish Oct 2014 #17
Racist culture in federal law-enforcement? DirkGently Oct 2014 #2
Meriah Heller interviewed Mr. Bolden... Octafish Oct 2014 #18
*sigh* So much fucked-uppediness. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #3
Yeah but... toddwv Oct 2014 #10
You are most welcome, scarletwoman! Edwin Black helped keep Abraham Bolden's story alive. Octafish Oct 2014 #38
You are simply amazing, Octafish! scarletwoman Oct 2014 #41
Thanks for this. You know that some people are going to call you crazy LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #4
For keeping his integrity, Abraham Bolden was put in a psych ward and force-fed drugs. Octafish Oct 2014 #22
What sucks is that not everyone has the mental toughness of Bolden RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #40
Pres. Obama should issue a pardon to this man so he won't still have the stigma of being a tblue37 Oct 2014 #5
It may be that things are so twisted he can't. Octafish Oct 2014 #23
They couldn't have Mr Bolden interfering with their plans for Mr Kennedy. n/t 951-Riverside Oct 2014 #6
Universal sign of WTF Octafish Oct 2014 #24
i hope he gets a presidential pardon. I wouldn't be underthematrix Oct 2014 #7
It's my bet that the WH is working on pardons for Bush and Cheney and the hell with this rhett o rick Oct 2014 #25
K&R. Bolden was also a crucial part of this brilliant and beautiful book RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #8
Recommended! Thank you! LongTomH Oct 2014 #9
''He chose peace. They marked him for death.'' -- James W. Douglass, PhD. and man of peace, himself Octafish Oct 2014 #39
A Coup In Camelot Trailer: Narrated by Peter Coyote Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #11
1963 - over 50 years ago TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #12
but, there's a long way to go...... a kennedy Oct 2014 #13
no denying that TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #16
I agree, the past can't be changed gratuitous Oct 2014 #30
The past can't be changed... malthaussen Oct 2014 #46
Bolden describes his WH service starting at the 1:16 mark here KurtNYC Oct 2014 #14
Great video..narrated by Martin Sheen Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #19
K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB Oct 2014 #15
Here's an old newspaper clipping from 1964... Octafish Oct 2014 #43
kicking for visibility. nashville_brook Oct 2014 #20
Meeting President Kennedy Octafish Oct 2014 #44
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #21
Excerpt from book review: 'You're the ''Jackie Robinson'' of the Secret Service.' Octafish Oct 2014 #45
And Thank You For All Your Invaluable Information WillyT Oct 2014 #47
Huger K&R rhett o rick Oct 2014 #26
Abraham Bolden heard agents say they wouldn't take a bullet for JFK. Octafish Oct 2014 #49
Actually, Kennedy escalated troop numbers in Vietnam. valerief Oct 2014 #27
True, ''advisors,'' whom he ordered home. Octafish Oct 2014 #28
Wow, thanks for this refresher course! Duppers Oct 2014 #31
Thanks, I'm another who did not know all of this. Scuba Oct 2014 #32
Right, but the troops he wanted to pull, he had put there to begin with. nt valerief Oct 2014 #35
OPLAN-34A Octafish Oct 2014 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Oct 2014 #29
Great thread, thanks to all. Kicking. Bookmarking. Scuba Oct 2014 #33
Damn!! Hutzpa Oct 2014 #34
Thanks for this thread malaise Oct 2014 #36
Thank you. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #42
Every time I read anything about JFK, I think how different history could have been! LongTomH Oct 2014 #48
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