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IdaBriggs

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44. I disagree (which is why it DOES belong here).
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:09 AM
Oct 2014

It ties a President whose motto was/is "hope and change" and compares him to a previous Democratic President who inspired the country along similar themes. (And yes, there is room for the disappointment comparison, too.) The imagery is stunning in that it portrays security failures by the Secret Service (who had a sitting President exposed to open air) as potentially recreating an assassination scenario.

I have a great deal of respect for the Secret Service; I can not comprehend the courage of being able to throw yourself in front of a bullet in defense of anyone other than a child or loved one, so the level of patriotism they exhibit leaves me in awe.

I think some of the scandals recently are caused by overwork, exhaustion, and a changing media (social, network and cable) which nearly encourages violence and enjoys a good mountain-out-of-a-molehill scandal on a slow news day.

I would not have mourned the death of Bush Junior or Cheney, whose crimes against humanity in Iraq alone deserve hellfire and damnation, but on another level, I am proud of our system of government that allowed for peaceful transition.

I worry for President Obama and his family; I also worry for the safety of my own. And then I shrug, and move on to do my normal jobs (which don't include the responsibilities he or the Secret Service face).

The fact we are even having this discussion, provoked by this cartoon, is why it belongs here. It is not "instigating" an assassination attempt - it is doing a potential compare/contrast/provoke with vivid, powerful imagery.

And honestly, the imagery may not be as powerful for the younger generation. I wasn't born when President Kennedy was assassinated, yet this cartoon still spoke to me. We need to remember our history -- and we need to embrace good, powerful change.

I still have hope.

I like the cartoon, even though I hate the topic.

I have to say it was well done, and much thanks to n2doc for sharing it.



ON EDIT: And I *love* how it compares First Lady Michelle Obama with the iconic and amazing First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy (even if I don't like the assassination implications -- both young mothers with personal strength, style and flair. So proud of the Obamas being in the White House - brings tears of joy to my eyes.

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And then some malaise Oct 2014 #1
I find it incredibly offensive and distasteful. morningfog Oct 2014 #2
Me too. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2014 #3
Agree that it's offensive, disagree on the published part. Scuba Oct 2014 #8
+1 daleanime Oct 2014 #23
Yes, it should have been published. Shocking is the word I would use not offensive. This is what jwirr Oct 2014 #47
I disagree - we all need to be scared malaise Oct 2014 #13
Much less offensive than a lot of Ted Ralls' work, IMO. hedgehog Oct 2014 #15
Same here Doctor_J Oct 2014 #20
I agree, I don't have a problem with n2doc bringing to our attention. morningfog Oct 2014 #29
You want all of us to be protected from harsh realities. You don't have to look at it but don't rhett o rick Oct 2014 #60
I said it shouldn't have been published. morningfog Oct 2014 #61
So you are just reproaching the artist for publishing it? How does that differ from censoring? rhett o rick Oct 2014 #64
How is it anything like censorship? morningfog Oct 2014 #69
I think in light of recent events concerning our POTUS, it makes a very clear point. Inkfreak Oct 2014 #66
I'm sorry you missed the point. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #85
OMG This toon was actually published! Rockyj Oct 2014 #94
n2doc IDemo Oct 2014 #4
This one deserves discussion. IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #16
I'm a cartoonist, though not published IDemo Oct 2014 #30
I disagree (which is why it DOES belong here). IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #44
Unrec FSogol Oct 2014 #5
That just took my breath away. Arkansas Granny Oct 2014 #6
That's fucked up......n/t Hotler Oct 2014 #7
Could you explain the metaphor? Brickbat Oct 2014 #9
That's just it. It doesn't say anything, it just shocks. morningfog Oct 2014 #17
My point exactly. Brickbat Oct 2014 #18
It took me a moment, but it seems the car is labeled "Secret Service" and the idea is that the stevenleser Oct 2014 #21
That's what I got out of it too. proReality Oct 2014 #48
See my post #44 for what I got out of it. nt IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #45
Good one. Paladin Oct 2014 #10
Sometimes... CanSocDem Oct 2014 #11
Yes. It makes sense. GoCubsGo Oct 2014 #27
LIHOP - yep. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #31
yep. and it's seriously upsetting. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #75
Well, that's what good art does. CanSocDem Oct 2014 #76
yep. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #80
Jury Results: Jokerman Oct 2014 #12
Jurist #6 has it right. Scuba Oct 2014 #19
I could not agree more. Yes, the imagery is distasteful and shocking. Raster Oct 2014 #26
Jurist #6 wins Democratic Underground. n/t Efilroft Sul Oct 2014 #83
I find the divergent reactions to this toon fascinating. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #24
You're way ahead of a number of people on this thread. Paladin Oct 2014 #28
Thank you, Paladin. dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #41
Good point. Paladin Oct 2014 #56
secret service and potus winetourdriver Oct 2014 #81
Scary times, indeed. (nt) Paladin Oct 2014 #84
And, it worries ME that a stranger made it all the way inside the White House! chervilant Oct 2014 #86
That was my reaction. geardaddy Oct 2014 #32
Yep. ^^ Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #36
I find it interesting that those who Bohunk68 Oct 2014 #68
Damn it, people have to quit being "offended" by statements pointing out the real problem or risk. Efilroft Sul Oct 2014 #82
Bad taste, not funny rock Oct 2014 #14
Yeah, it's shocking and emotionally upsetting, but I think it reflects the concern well. Zynx Oct 2014 #22
What happened in Dallas was a massive fail- and LeftinOH Oct 2014 #25
Fail? Depends on your viewpoint probably Doctor_J Oct 2014 #34
Right, some (not me!) might see it as a successul assasination. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #37
You are making the assumption that they again don't have their "shit together". rhett o rick Oct 2014 #58
It's supposed to make your gut churn. Jerry442 Oct 2014 #33
Exactly. I have often worried about him when he walks in crowds. How safe is he there? Keep them jwirr Oct 2014 #49
Rick Perry needs to be sitting where Biden is. Otherwise pretty freaky! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #35
Notice how the First Couple is out in the open and totally vulnerable. lpbk2713 Oct 2014 #38
It's offensive OK. It's also unnerving. It carries a message............ wandy Oct 2014 #39
Horrible. This is more than disturbing. n/t Paper Roses Oct 2014 #40
Great point being made heaven05 Oct 2014 #42
I reached out to the cartoonist and asked if he would be willing to write a short blurb about it. stevenleser Oct 2014 #43
Well done! IdaBriggs Oct 2014 #46
Actually, I saw the meaning in a second. Savannahmann Oct 2014 #50
Imagine our reaction if Ineeda Oct 2014 #51
Yes it is a scary cartoon Gothmog Oct 2014 #52
Agree about the interesting reactions in this thread BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #53
This is exactly what I have been thinking about since the current secret service scandel me b zola Oct 2014 #54
Response from Cartoonist: stevenleser Oct 2014 #55
+1000. Thanks for obtaining this response, stevenleser. (nt) Paladin Oct 2014 #57
You're welcome. I pointed him to this thread here too. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #59
Well done. (nt) Paladin Oct 2014 #63
I read it to say, "This can happen again." Those that want to censor it rhett o rick Oct 2014 #62
... progressoid Oct 2014 #65
Strong commentary. (nt) Inkfreak Oct 2014 #67
This toon is not only just frightening but absolutely sickening. n/t RebelOne Oct 2014 #70
More from the cartoonist: stevenleser Oct 2014 #71
I get the impression that some here don't want to be reminded of the reality of rhett o rick Oct 2014 #72
I disagree with the sec state part but the rest I agree with 100%. I also have to say... stevenleser Oct 2014 #88
If you think the president has more power than the NSA/CIA why would you think that? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #90
You mean besides the Constitutional part? Besides that he is their bosses and can fire them at will? stevenleser Oct 2014 #91
I wish I was a sure as you. When he became President the CIA and NSA already had their programs in rhett o rick Oct 2014 #93
I think that was the point of the security breaches yurbud Oct 2014 #73
That Would Not Happen Today erpowers Oct 2014 #74
uninvited guests make it into a White House party, a guy jumps the fence, runs into and through the yurbud Oct 2014 #79
Why in the hell would anyone onecaliberal Oct 2014 #77
I'd say the artist is hoping to communicate an idea to you. Demit Oct 2014 #78
And if the President had been home on the day of the fence jumper, the worst could have easily stevenleser Oct 2014 #87
Why would anyone draw that? proReality Oct 2014 #89
Somewhat off-topic, but... Duer 157099 Oct 2014 #92
That cartoon sent a chill down my spine. Rex Oct 2014 #95
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