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TM99

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58. Thank you.

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:58 PM

Oct 2014

You got what I was conveying.

We are so certain that our models, myths, biases, and conditions are so superior when in fact, we suffer from all the same problems.

We have failed security for a President. We have failures of communication in a hospital ER that led to an infectious ebola patient being discharged when he should have been put into medical isolation and treated. If he dies, the onus is on those who failed him when he sought medical attention. And the list can go on.

It is a form of cultural narcissism. It does lead us collectively to not question our actions both with those within our own country but also with those in others. And that blindness can lead to seriously negative consequences from Ebola spreading to the BP oil spill in the Gulf to any number of other situations such as these.

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Texas Officials Say 80 People May Have Been Exposed To Ebola Patient: Report [View all] cali Oct 2014 OP

FUD! FSogol Oct 2014 #1

Glad to see we have got this under control. n/t djean111 Oct 2014 #2

But the question is was he infectious when those possible exposures happened? Botany Oct 2014 #3

I'm assuming that the 80 people were in contact with him during the time he was infectious cali Oct 2014 #4

An abundance of caution, perhaps? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #12

I just read that those 80 people are being monitored cali Oct 2014 #14

+1 nt Live and Learn Oct 2014 #75

Yes. LisaL Oct 2014 #7

So in other words TM99 Oct 2014 #5

one case ='s africas crisis? seabeyond Oct 2014 #6

Liberia only had a single case five months ago. Soon they will have 10,000. pnwmom Oct 2014 #54

it doesnt appear, even from case one, we are handling it anywhere like liberia and the other places seabeyond Oct 2014 #56

Oh, really. We handled it so much better? pnwmom Oct 2014 #57

yes seabeyond Oct 2014 #59

So it was better the way we sent him home with antibiotics? pnwmom Oct 2014 #76

Wow! ecstatic Oct 2014 #72

oh come on abundance of caution... snooper2 Oct 2014 #9

Sad, that I need a sarcasm tag TM99 Oct 2014 #34

"Africa is a third world country" Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #45

Seriously? TM99 Oct 2014 #47

Sorry. I didn't know it was sarcasm. You just can't tell these days... Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #48

No worries. TM99 Oct 2014 #51

yesss, that's what's so dangerous about exceptionalism: not that it institutionalizes hypocrisy MisterP Oct 2014 #53

Thank you. TM99 Oct 2014 #58

"culture/subjectivity is what *other* people have" MisterP Oct 2014 #60

Oh, yes, I am quite familiar with Whig History. TM99 Oct 2014 #65

heck, that's what Tylor himself was writing against--the Positivist idea of brains and societies MisterP Oct 2014 #69

It amazes me that it takes a single case Live and Learn Oct 2014 #77

I definitely agree that there is no need to panic. TM99 Oct 2014 #81

Africa is a CONTINENT...NOT a country, TM99 Ecumenist Oct 2014 #78

Reading comprehension has gotten atrocious. TM99 Oct 2014 #80

But there's nothing to worry about. PeteSelman Oct 2014 #8

All right, I'm going to level with you all. deutsey Oct 2014 #10

Haha! PeteSelman Oct 2014 #29

probably more than that. while he was 'sick' he waited in emergency room, was sent home. Sunlei Oct 2014 #11

And the ambulance he took while symptomatic was left in service for another two days. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #55

I'm floored that the paramedics and Duncan's family TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #13

I agree. LisaL Oct 2014 #15

It's outrageous TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #19

if they live in the home together they are already exposed VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #28

No, they aren't already exposed. MelungeonWoman Oct 2014 #38

my point is .. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #42

Homes are fine as long as someone is watching that the residents do not leave. I am assuming that jwirr Oct 2014 #41

There is no need for quarantine unless there are symptoms. morningfog Oct 2014 #20

they are quarantined at home with their FAMILIES TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #30

In the case of the ebola victim - his entire family were exposed. And I read it to say that they are jwirr Oct 2014 #43

the paramedics were also exposed TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #44

I assume that they are also quarantined to their homes. If I were being quarantined in my home I jwirr Oct 2014 #46

You make a good point. morningfog Oct 2014 #64

Per MSNBC up to 100 now. bklyncowgirl Oct 2014 #16

Their is no epidemic just because 100 are being monitored. morningfog Oct 2014 #21

Actually, even a few cases of a very rare disease, JimDandy Oct 2014 #33

Does this include everybody on the airplane? nt TBF Oct 2014 #62

It is my understanding that it doesn't include anyone on the plane. morningfog Oct 2014 #63

Symptoms started on the 24th, according to Duncan--who has already been exposed as a liar. nt ecstatic Oct 2014 #73

up to 100 *may* have had *possible* contact with him. not necessarily magical thyme Oct 2014 #24

Don't buy into the media hype herding cats Oct 2014 #49

True. And, as has been pointed out, even the Nigerians managed to get their issue under control. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #68

Nigeria and Sierra Leone have been super aggressive-- ecstatic Oct 2014 #74

Get back to me when those 80 people contract the virus jambo101 Oct 2014 #17

Very true. No one is showing any signs of infeection yet. morningfog Oct 2014 #23

the average window is 8 to 10 days and up to 21 TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #32

Yep, this is all about hype and fear. cbdo2007 Oct 2014 #37

To date its just one guy jambo101 Oct 2014 #70

Is this people he contacted AFTER symptoms were showing? Because we were ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #18

Contagiousness does not occur until symptoms are showing. morningfog Oct 2014 #22

Thanks, morningfog! That's what I thought. nt ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #27

OK, that's helpful to know. nt TBF Oct 2014 #66

he became symptomatic after he was already here with his family TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #25

Thank you, TTW. I didn't know they were out of ZMapp. I know one thing though, ChisolmTrailDem Oct 2014 #26

"they better not let Mr. Duncan die after saving those docs" seveneyes Oct 2014 #31

better yet just not let anyone come here from a hot zone TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #35

The reason that won't happen is oil - TBF Oct 2014 #67

there's only ever been but a handful of doses TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #36

Because it killed so rapidly, and was over in poor Africa, no profit to be made. n/t djean111 Oct 2014 #52

exactly TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #71

Includes more casual contact & indirect contact ctaylors6 Oct 2014 #39

"As many as 500,000,0000, as few as 1 may have....". Qualifiers, not real numbers and cya stuff. uppityperson Oct 2014 #40

Let's hope they have identified all of them. B2G Oct 2014 #50

Hopefully, they didn't touch his bodily fluids and then rub their eyes or lick their fingers. ohnoyoudidnt Oct 2014 #61

My family is in San Antonio Puzzledtraveller Oct 2014 #79