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103. I wasn't adequately schooled about George W. Bush's "axis of evil" bull shit.

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 10:37 PM

Apr 2012

I'm glad I wasn't!

So tell me exactly how denying the Korean people food assistance will win over the "hearts and minds" of the people.

That hasn't been explained yet by anyone in this discussion. Perhaps you can.

We tried napalm in Vietnam and that didn't work out very well so I'm not so sure this new and more compassionate policy will be very effective.

The "cold war" Democrats and Republicans taught me so much during the Vietnam war and I forgot most of it!

I'm sure thankful for that. It's harder to fool me a second time around!

Now I'm prepared to hear pretty much the same sort of crapola about Korea. But, it won't take nearly as long for me to seperate misleading political propaganda from the tiny bit and rare factual reporting we'll see in the corporate mass media.

However, if you can provide me with something other than crude propaganda "talking points" we're bombarded with everyday in the mass media I'd like to read them!

I'm listening!

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US cancels food aid to North Korea: That'll teach Koreans who's the boss! [View all] Better Believe It Apr 2012 OP

Don't worry, the GOP is about to suggest we replace food aid with another Free Trade Agreement. Zalatix Apr 2012 #1

Good one! Better Believe It Apr 2012 #6

Well, as part of the Axis of Evil they don't deserve our food quinnox Apr 2012 #2

Right. And that will turn the Korean people against their government and make them love us! Better Believe It Apr 2012 #7

I really doubt that much of our food aid MineralMan Apr 2012 #14

actually SwampG8r Apr 2012 #136

Thank you for that. MineralMan Apr 2012 #143

So you really believes their claim that a ballistic missile is a "weather satellite"? TheWraith Apr 2012 #3

At least we now know who he is promoting in the primaries. FSogol Apr 2012 #26

So you really believe that withholding food SomethingFishy Apr 2012 #67

It's not that simple MrBig Apr 2012 #71

First, the US does not OWE NK food SATIRical Apr 2012 #107

Sorry, but I think it is the correct thing to do by the US. Why should NK be able to spend teddy51 Apr 2012 #4

agreed quitnesset Apr 2012 #33

agree #2 BlueDemKev Apr 2012 #72

Yes, it is unfortunate that US policy allows NK military industrial complex to foster. joshcryer Apr 2012 #122

The militaristic bullcrap will continue unimpeded and their people will starve even more. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2012 #130

You're a fan of NK's militarism and insane leadership? MineralMan Apr 2012 #5

Over the top... Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #10

I made no accusation. I asked a question. MineralMan Apr 2012 #12

I saw what you did there. GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #32

Oh, I see... whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #60

Just where did you get the idea that the OP is a 'fan' of an enemy of the US? That is a pretty sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #47

It was a question, as you can see. MineralMan Apr 2012 #51

you're a fan of starving children? frylock Apr 2012 #63

I'm not starving any children in North Korea. MineralMan Apr 2012 #65

you keep saying that.. frylock Apr 2012 #73

You're a fan of their parents letting things stay as they are? treestar Apr 2012 #84

Seriously? Nevernose Apr 2012 #100

Well they'll still have to do something treestar Apr 2012 #104

I never took a position in the OP Nevernose Apr 2012 #114

It has happened in other countries treestar Apr 2012 #116

And giving the leadership food SATIRical Apr 2012 #108

Yes, I saw the 'have you stopped beating your wife' type question. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #92

That was a rhetorical question. joshcryer Apr 2012 #121

Saying the food we gave them was their entitlement? treestar Apr 2012 #81

The accusation was one of treason, using the old 'have you stopped beating your wife yet' sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #86

That's got to be the worst post I've seen on DU all day. n/t white_wolf Apr 2012 #91

I'm not one of your detractors, but we damn well should have cancelled food aid DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #8

NK has repeatedly thwarted international efforts to monitor aid distribution. Robb Apr 2012 #23

Gotta love our very own DU realpolitikers: "Let 'em starve. That'll show 'em." Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #9

Given the North Korean government... MrBig Apr 2012 #13

No reason whatsoever=good point. nt babylonsister Apr 2012 #24

Really good point. aquart Apr 2012 #25

The people of North Korea starve whether we send them food or not. Johnny Rico Apr 2012 #17

And how does "starving" the population help undermine the bureaucratic regime? Links please! Better Believe It Apr 2012 #28

WE aren't starving the North Korean people MrBig Apr 2012 #35

Ask the people who are starving them, Codeine Apr 2012 #58

They could grow their own food! treestar Apr 2012 #83

The North Korean government is starving the people. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #94

You'd rather have a war than economic sanctions? FSogol Apr 2012 #27

Perhaps NK should spend their money on food and not missiles? hack89 Apr 2012 #42

Yes, it will work out just like Iraq, where over half a million children died as a result of sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #48

You actually think that was a weather satellite? nt msanthrope Apr 2012 #11

Well, it's nothing at all, now. MineralMan Apr 2012 #16

I think it probably was a weather satellite, but the satellite part was a mere adronment DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #19

Warheads that Korea doesn't have and won't have for a very long time. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #34

Here's what I think, BBI DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #46

What kind of a satellite do you think it was? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #20

Great Successor would never do anything underhanded Freddie Stubbs Apr 2012 #38

Maybe they should buy food instead of building "weather satellites". Swede Apr 2012 #15

LOL Cali_Democrat Apr 2012 #18

Do you also believe Kim Jong Il... MrBig Apr 2012 #21

And not just that, I believe it was his first time golfing. n/t hughee99 Apr 2012 #29

Do you believe that everything Washington politicians say is the truth? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #36

Wow, you put a LOT of irrelevant words into my mouth MrBig Apr 2012 #39

Do you think they are hiding food in their rockets? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #66

Huh? MrBig Apr 2012 #70

You didn't answer the question treestar Apr 2012 #85

They do have top-notch weather forecasters, you'll have to give them that. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2012 #59

No. But anything to trash President Obama is fair game for some. nt bluestate10 Apr 2012 #95

Naive, much? aquart Apr 2012 #22

Not naive. Read posts by the OP. You will develop a true picture of what is happening. nt bluestate10 Apr 2012 #96

Aw Jeez ... GeorgeGist Apr 2012 #30

you are impressively predictable cali Apr 2012 #31

Do you have any suggestions on how we can really stick it to the Korean people? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #37

Distortion of the first order. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #97

And how is the U.S. denying food aide helping the Korean people .... what do you say to them? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #98

No, it won't. Wait Wut Apr 2012 #40

+1 Muskypundit Apr 2012 #90

Why do you think we have an obligation to give them food? chrisa Apr 2012 #41

Pick your battles, BBI. MineralMan Apr 2012 #43

lol, you giving "advice", especially in light of recent revelations, is quinnox Apr 2012 #44

Irrelevant. MineralMan Apr 2012 #45

get back to me when MM posts whack ass OPs like this one... dionysus Apr 2012 #131

Why on Earth should we give the North Korean government a dime's worth of aid? Throd Apr 2012 #49

Because we give extreme right-wing regimes and dictatorships billions every year to maintain them? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #99

You're seriously going to try to justify it like that? RZM Apr 2012 #129

The massive failures of the North Korean system are our fault? Codeine Apr 2012 #50

No, Bush is responsible for where the US stands today with problem of N Korea sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #54

Completely irrelevant to the question of whether we have an innate responsibility Codeine Apr 2012 #57

Yes, let's punish the people for their poor choice in dictators whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #61

And people should be able to eat unicorn poop SATIRical Apr 2012 #110

Only 161 before you start leaking RW gas whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #112

Reality is not a RW meme SATIRical Apr 2012 #113

That is not really the question. The question is, will sanctions achieve the goal of influencing sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #64

I made no claim as to the effectiveness of the sanction decision. Codeine Apr 2012 #76

South Africa. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #78

Yes, to an extent. But there is a lot of disagreement as to how much of an effect they had. sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #79

North Korea's nuclear tests and increased MIC ended the Sunshine Policy. joshcryer Apr 2012 #120

thank you. someone who actually remembers history. NuttyFluffers Apr 2012 #138

Yeah, it's hard to blame the South Korean people for voting in people that ended it. joshcryer Apr 2012 #141

We didn't cut off their food, their government and dear leader chose to spend their money jp11 Apr 2012 #52

Wow! Biggest Fail Ever! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #53

It's not just a fail... SidDithers Apr 2012 #55

!! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #62

is that a triple kickboxin' power fist? them's.. .fightin woids! dionysus Apr 2012 #126

Hey dion. Are you as speechless about this o.p. as I am? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #127

i'll let you know ow speechless i am once i stop laughing... dionysus Apr 2012 #133

I don't think you're the only who's laughing. Normally, the op would have thousands.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #137

OMG!!! SunsetDreams Apr 2012 #68

LMFAO!!!! Odin2005 Apr 2012 #89

Keep trying... SidDithers Apr 2012 #56

fail paulk Apr 2012 #69

You cannot be serious. Ikonoklast Apr 2012 #74

I think you are getting a real good schooling here, BBI Whisp Apr 2012 #75

They're ignoring almost everyone doing the educating...nt SidDithers Apr 2012 #77

I wasn't adequately schooled about George W. Bush's "axis of evil" bull shit. Better Believe It Apr 2012 #103

Because the NK gov't would simply claim SATIRical Apr 2012 #111

The food aid will return, actually. Much sooner than when we did this in 2006 (nuke test). joshcryer Apr 2012 #124

The reason it is done is to send a signal to the people. joshcryer Apr 2012 #123

"their food" treestar Apr 2012 #80

Are you serious??? Texasgal Apr 2012 #82

Take up your concerns with the fine generals of the DPRK. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #87

I doubt the aid reaches the average North Korean, anyway. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #88

It's alleged that much of it goes to the leadership and military Kaleva Apr 2012 #101

That is a foregone conclusion, the west does it just to say "well we helped." joshcryer Apr 2012 #119

The leaders of North Korea could invest money in food. bluestate10 Apr 2012 #93

North Carolina? I really don't think they're that bad... SidDithers Apr 2012 #102

Food security is the easiest thing for a country to do. joshcryer Apr 2012 #118

Does this mean there is another "peace" prize in the offing? Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2012 #105

heh SammyWinstonJack Apr 2012 #106

Your next thread calls it a rocket. Which is it, BBI? DevonRex Apr 2012 #109

It sure looks like a rocket to me. Using your rocket expertise what do you think it really is? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #115

You're a rocket scientist? Robb Apr 2012 #144

For those who haven't seen it, Mitchell and Webb brilliance on that topic... SidDithers Apr 2012 #145

whatever it is.. it somehow makes Obama evilllllllllllll dionysus Apr 2012 #132

My head is spinning. DevonRex Apr 2012 #147

When we reinstate it quietly in a month or two at most... joshcryer Apr 2012 #117

poutrage fail. try harder... dionysus Apr 2012 #125

Here's another example rudycantfail Apr 2012 #128

It wasn't getting to the people who needed it, anyway. NashvilleLefty Apr 2012 #134

why should we feed them? SwampG8r Apr 2012 #135

Clearly North Korea was using the food aid for a bake sale to raise money for Bradley Manning's WonderGrunion Apr 2012 #139

Do you think Manning is guilty of espionage and should do years of hard labor in prison? Better Believe It Apr 2012 #146

They had their chance. agentS Apr 2012 #140

There is zero chance for an uprising, like Libya North Korea believes in Collective Punishment. joshcryer Apr 2012 #142

The US Should Punish North Korea's Leaders, NOT Its People zorahopkins Apr 2012 #148

Did you bother to read through this thread before commenting? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2012 #149