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Babel_17

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80. The take away: You don't tear down what you can't put back up
Fri Oct 3, 2014, 11:10 AM
Oct 2014

IIRC, that's part of the rationale about why some kinds of military actions are considered criminal. We broke Iraq, and sent it down a spiral of failure.

Our military presence was both a cause of rebellion, and part of the answer to keeping the country together. Iraq's government made the wrong decisions about how to deal with the vulnerable Sunni minority. Short of treating Iraq like Viet Nam, we had to live with that.

Our drawing our troops out was indeed part of the series of events that led us to where we are today. But they didn't cause it. Had we stayed, we'd be up to our eyeballs in the slaughter on the ground.

I'm still waiting for the neo-con's to prod their kids to enlist. Why aren't they at Harvard and Yale, etc., promoting ROTC? The crap economy their policies left us with can only do so much to help enlistments. To garrison the Middle East we need to see the modern day versions of Cheney not hide behind "better things to do".

Bush needs to be called out on this. "Are you proposing a draft?", "Are you asking the children of your associates and friends to enlist?". If not, where does he see the boots on the ground coming from?

"Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for this, or should it be off budget like your war?"

There are many questions he should be faced with.

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As your sigline says so eloquently: Anger is a gift. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2014 #1
"Thank you for your eloquence, my dear Will! " "Eloquence!" Well put Peggy. nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #103
I Agree But billhicks76 Oct 2014 #143
kick and rec. fuck the fucking fuck, yes. spanone Oct 2014 #2
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Warmongers should STFU and be thankful they live in a country that won't Rex Oct 2014 #4
People here on DU who complain that we didn't pursue this war criminal FlatStanley Oct 2014 #30
... SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #47
Those "miss me yet?" posters drive me crazy Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2014 #57
I had this right winger on my facebook one time christx30 Oct 2014 #84
I agree. Creepy hueymahl Oct 2014 #132
He absolutely believes that jmowreader Oct 2014 #128
He also bombed about a million of their innocent men, women and children. Tortured and imprisoned sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #156
Fucking POS used car salesman if you ask me. Sopkoviak Oct 2014 #5
Welcome back. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #6
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As a former used car salesman, Mr.Bill Oct 2014 #114
And how many people in 2002 were telling him to stay out of the damn country in the first place wickerwoman Oct 2014 #7
Here's looking FORWARD at you, kid. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #31
I didn't see that. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #49
It sure as hell wasn't on TV. . annabanana Oct 2014 #96
Definite k&r - raven mad Oct 2014 #8
They're an absolute disgrace and History should Remember them for their disasterous policies. nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #10
History should remember them behind bars BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #20
You need to be looking forward, not backward. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #32
How about looking forward.... freebrew Oct 2014 #79
Sorry, the President didn't elaborate when he made his statement. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #99
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #11
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The syphilis president... adirondacker Oct 2014 #13
That's hilarious. But not entirely accurate. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #33
You sure about that? WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #48
Well, there's been a new boss in town of a while. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #56
Jury results on your post Will Autumn Oct 2014 #113
"the poster is insinuating that all gypsy people are dishonest" WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #116
It's funny someone didn't understand that. Autumn Oct 2014 #155
K&R&NT ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #14
Indeed - he deserves the vilest condemnation for his contiinued hypocrisy and bareface lies! n/t mazzarro Oct 2014 #15
This bag of dirt is being coerced back into the limelight by the likes of the Kochs and Cheney. C Moon Oct 2014 #16
This is what happens when YOU DON'T PROSECUTE! FlatStanley Oct 2014 #34
K & R.... dhill926 Oct 2014 #17
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........ trusty elf Oct 2014 #38
:D C Moon Oct 2014 #43
Every day, until the the very last one of the dead, maimed, and orphaned forgives him... alterfurz Oct 2014 #55
Merely displaying the soles of your shoes, bvf Oct 2014 #44
"FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING FUCK." Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #19
and I will quote WP irisblue Oct 2014 #24
Ashley Morris lives on! SomeGuyInEagan Oct 2014 #87
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I have an alternate theory... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #28
It truly was a no-lose scenario. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2014 #62
Texas oilmen saw their profits TRIPLE under Dubya without a single bomb in their yard... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #88
If your theory is correct (and I occur, BTW), then our vast intelligence services should all be Stardust Oct 2014 #91
You are too kind to him IMO lunasun Oct 2014 #22
Simon Says Mister Nightowl Oct 2014 #23
Results of your jury service. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #25
Talk about dropping the soap! mrdmk Oct 2014 #35
I'm not sure if I've EVER seen a fully unanimous jury decision before. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #37
Same here. bvf Oct 2014 #40
Thinking about it, many six to one! Not a complete strike-out... mrdmk Oct 2014 #41
I was on one once that was 7-9 to hide rurallib Oct 2014 #68
It's happened. On a jury I was on. mwooldri Oct 2014 #92
I was on this jury also. What a pathetic alert. nt Mojorabbit Oct 2014 #36
Heh. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #45
Please do! AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #74
*sner* WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #75
The nation should stage a massive, "Fuck you, W Bush!" rally. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #50
To the alerter and juror #6 Rex Oct 2014 #69
LOL Who the fuck did that? Hissyspit Oct 2014 #72
"Fuck the alerter" : best explanation ever! bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #102
Yeah, I liked that one, too! FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #110
"And fuck grandma, too!" louis-t Oct 2014 #127
K/R Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #26
Thank you Will, for remembering and always speaking out 7wo7rees Oct 2014 #27
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The Bush family hopes we all have short memories. livetohike Oct 2014 #51
"VOTE JEBBEH!!1!" bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #101
Taking a page from The Rude One, huh, Will? mnhtnbb Oct 2014 #52
I said the same thing on other site. TRoN33 Oct 2014 #53
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Give the bastard a gun and a one way ticket. RoccoR5955 Oct 2014 #58
Bush... sendero Oct 2014 #59
''Money trumps peace.'' -- appointed pretzeldent George Walker Bush, Feb. 14, 2007 Octafish Oct 2014 #60
1. ISIS would not EXIST had we not invaded Iraq; 2. ISIS leader was let go because of BUSH Triana Oct 2014 #61
In 1965, I was 13 when I got a shortwave radio. Jerry442 Oct 2014 #63
one of the best comparisons I have ever heard rurallib Oct 2014 #70
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Why is this numbnuts not in jail? With the whole PNAC cabal? CaptainTruth Oct 2014 #67
Yo Bush, as we're fond of saying at Marv's sarge43 Oct 2014 #71
To your "fuck you bush" I would like to add "fuck you cheney" as well. nt logosoco Oct 2014 #73
And I'd like to add, Fuck You to all those idiots who voted for them, TWICE! ffr Oct 2014 #81
He's been just waiting.... bobGandolf Oct 2014 #76
The lesson learned you ignorant little fuck bowens43 Oct 2014 #77
Kick and Fucking Rec. historylovr Oct 2014 #78
The take away: You don't tear down what you can't put back up Babel_17 Oct 2014 #80
Bush dissing Obama on Iraq is like an arsonist dissing the fire department. nt hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2014 #82
Snicker, smirk "What me worry? Y'all folks won't even push for the 28 pages!" johnnyreb Oct 2014 #83
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Ask and receive. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #90
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I got to meet him once KamaAina Oct 2014 #134
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Fuck you and that whole criminal enterprise that was your administration hibbing Oct 2014 #93
See, that is why I don't do much writing... Marie Marie Oct 2014 #94
well put samsingh Oct 2014 #95
The Bush Administration is the most damaging in US history! santamargarita Oct 2014 #97
Fucking kick and fucking rec! BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #98
My boundaries will find me WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #100
Of course this will go right past our F'd up media. In 2012, the Repubs wanted rhett o rick Oct 2014 #104
Giving rise to "Throw shoes to power." merrily Oct 2014 #105
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Bravo, Will! hifiguy Oct 2014 #108
Well shit now after reading all these comments I got a little buzz on…. toby jo Oct 2014 #109
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Well, OK, then. MineralMan Oct 2014 #119
As I say WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #122
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Fuck that. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #125
No. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #131
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Thom Hartman read this on his show earlier. City Lights Oct 2014 #117
Ha! Really? WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #120
Haha, yes, he bleeped out *certain* words. City Lights Oct 2014 #121
Well, someone has to do it. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #123
And this is the problem with the pseudo press in this country, they have a still_one Oct 2014 #126
Like I want to hear advice from Mr. 9/11, The Great Recession of 2007/2008, Hurricane Katrina, NOLA blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #129
You do have a way with words Will. Don't ever change that. Autumn Oct 2014 #130
I was just ready to post "You do have a way with words..." fadedrose Oct 2014 #137
It's not possible to talk of the previous administration without using those words. Autumn Oct 2014 #138
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he LIED us into war. plain & simple. he soiled the office. he deserves none of my respect. spanone Oct 2014 #149
What huh? Rex Oct 2014 #144
Fuck shrub. Why should someone who did so much harm deserve my respect? uppityperson Oct 2014 #147
That right there WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #151
A man's gotta own up to disrespecting the dead. Rex Oct 2014 #148
And furthermore, I would purpose that we change the meaning of the word 'fuckwad' Rex Oct 2014 #150
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K&R RandiFan1290 Oct 2014 #153
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I didn't get it either, Autumn... Violet_Crumble Oct 2014 #163
I speak the F bomb language fluently Autumn Oct 2014 #164
Strange that Milosevic was sent to prison yet Bush and PM Martin Oct 2014 #157
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Sincerest form of flattery. WilliamPitt Oct 2014 #160
Already got the sticker cloudbase Oct 2014 #161
You call yourself a "writer"? Packerowner740 Oct 2014 #165
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