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Feral Child

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52. Won't get much traction, I believe.

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 04:25 PM

Oct 2014

No appeal for most of us, it's too much like what most of us don't want any part of.

I certainly won't be signing up, much less tithing.

I guess, as with most philosophies, some folks just need to be in the club, and some-one will want to be the Boss. Human nature.

Shame that they (those mentioned in the article) are misogynists. I don't think there's a "connect"; ie, I don't think those views are any more widespread than in the population at large. I certainly hope that most male atheists, since the overall philosophy is tied to realism, skepticism, and belief in science as the most accurate view of reality, would not be mired in hatred for females. Still, I'm surprised that someone like Dawson, generally a very smart man, is caught up in that. Misogyny is based on emotion rather than logic, and I guess some folks are just "infected".

Emotion, especially hatred, seems to trump logic everytime.

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Dominant Male Atheist Leaders Seem to Have a Problem with Women [View all] LexVegas Oct 2014 OP

We have leaders? brooklynite Oct 2014 #1

My first reaction as well. I do not want or need a leader to follow. tridim Oct 2014 #5

Many religious minds can't picture atheism as anything BUT a competing "religion." trotsky Oct 2014 #9

Heck, some people even believe that white is a color... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #38

Yep. There are "prominent" atheists hifiguy Oct 2014 #41

Did you get the memo? I didn't. Initech Oct 2014 #11

Apparently we also have dogma and a Pope Warpy Oct 2014 #24

We have memos? JHB Oct 2014 #33

They were handed out at the meeting Orrex Oct 2014 #39

Yes, we had a meeting edgineered Oct 2014 #42

Apparently it had faith-based meeting minutes, and I disbelived them JHB Oct 2014 #87

Heck, I wouldn't READ a 'memo.' elleng Oct 2014 #60

I've followed some pretty outspoken atheists on Youtube for some time. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #2

One of the nice things about being an atheist sharp_stick Oct 2014 #3

I don't believe in any of it madokie Oct 2014 #47

Are these like cardinals? LittleBlue Oct 2014 #4

Leaders? whatthehey Oct 2014 #6

Some men have problems with women. Atheists are not excluded. immoderate Oct 2014 #7

I always thought temporary311 Oct 2014 #8

So do some DUers. What's your point? NCTraveler Oct 2014 #10

Atheism is a rejection of a theism. It's not a group or organization. Yavin4 Oct 2014 #12

Well, imagine that. Whoda thunk it. Tuesday Afternoon Oct 2014 #13

Too funny! Atheist leaders!!!! BillZBubb Oct 2014 #14

I preside over all the non-stamp-collectors in my area. cyberswede Oct 2014 #21

Do the Submissive edhopper Oct 2014 #15

"Some prominent athiests" gollygee Oct 2014 #16

It could be argued... Scootaloo Oct 2014 #19

well of course religion isn't the cause of misogyny. It's just a tool that has been used by liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #25

Not so sure about the infallatory part, there seems to be agreement here. edgineered Oct 2014 #26

It's Alternet LOL, snooper2 Oct 2014 #28

Yes, as always, it becomes a quibble about a single word, rather than a consideration of Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #34

What exactly is the overall picture, in this context? Orrex Oct 2014 #40

Your contention is that atheism is, generally speaking, misogynistic? Marr Oct 2014 #78

Easy solution: Hosnon Oct 2014 #82

There are some atheists who are followers. edgineered Oct 2014 #17

Dominant males seem to have a problem with women. Iggo Oct 2014 #18

Would you like to hear a sexist atheist idea? Here's a good one. edgineered Oct 2014 #20

All "domintant male leaders" seem to have a problem with women. Warpy Oct 2014 #22

"Outspoken Male Atheist" has a problem with women, perhaps. Feral Child Oct 2014 #23

It's sort of like right-to-work vs. union The2ndWheel Oct 2014 #27

I'm struggling with your reply. Feral Child Oct 2014 #29

Any kind of individual/collective situation really The2ndWheel Oct 2014 #37

Oh, I get it now. Feral Child Oct 2014 #46

There IS no movement! mr blur Oct 2014 #30

THIS! procon Oct 2014 #59

they now have evo psych, the new religion in the name of science, to promote their patriarchy. seabeyond Oct 2014 #31

Who does? tkmorris Oct 2014 #36

A group of people who pride themselves on being enlightened and rational YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #48

Again, you're telling atheists what they think *as a group* Orrex Oct 2014 #58

Won't get much traction, I believe. Feral Child Oct 2014 #52

thank you for a reasoned post. one that can argue against, yet acknowledge. seabeyond Oct 2014 #55

Apparently some organizations do exist. Feral Child Oct 2014 #62

i agree. but then, that is the harm of the evo psych, is they see it as factual base, science. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #64

Thunderf00t and AmazingAtheist aren't "Atheist Leaders." chrisa Oct 2014 #32

Unfortunately their videos have millions of views on youtube. alp227 Oct 2014 #74

thank you alp. yes. simply the reality, so it behooves atheist who disagree to speak up seabeyond Oct 2014 #75

I wasn't aware there were "Athiest leaders" Marrah_G Oct 2014 #35

What am I? Chopped liver? Orrex Oct 2014 #49

Shit- I thought you were on vacation!!!!! Marrah_G Oct 2014 #51

THERE ARE NO ATHEISTS ON VACATION! Dr. Strange Oct 2014 #66

I'd like an audit of where my dues are going Yavin4 Oct 2014 #68

Have you looked in a mirror lately? JHB Oct 2014 #90

"Dominant" ones at that! arcane1 Oct 2014 #79

google seems to recognize leaders of atheists. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #43

What is google? yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2014 #44

Google also has links to people that claim to have fucked Bigfoot. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #83

OK, you win the thread. hifiguy Oct 2014 #91

Yes, dominant male leaders seem to have a problem with women. Rex Oct 2014 #45

Look at all the defensiveness and whitewashing YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #50

Do you typically let people speak on your behalf and tell you what you think? Orrex Oct 2014 #53

Atheists don't believe in made up stuff. Nt Logical Oct 2014 #54

but, in the name of science, it is not made up, it is merely biology, so they say. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #56

Correcting misconceptions about what one believes or does not believe LostOne4Ever Oct 2014 #86

They ain't my damn leaders!! bravenak Oct 2014 #57

Conditional payment remitted, edgineered Oct 2014 #61

Indulgence granted upon receipt of payment. bravenak Oct 2014 #67

Grabbing my beads and shekels now! edgineered Oct 2014 #69

Hey, Judas! bravenak Oct 2014 #76

Unfortunately, edgineered Oct 2014 #84

Until they get to what the RC church is, I'm not going to spend energy worrying. LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #63

Ah... It's connect-the-dots with a power sprayer procon Oct 2014 #65

What this refers to is organized skeptical/atheist groups. alarimer Oct 2014 #70

they are responsible when say, a dawkins dismisses and scorns the woman that speaks up and his seabeyond Oct 2014 #71

I agree. alarimer Oct 2014 #85

exactly. and there are two that acknowledge this. all the rest ignore, joke, dismiss. seabeyond Oct 2014 #88

Please don't tell me that... peace13 Oct 2014 #72

Leading Atheist's is like, yortsed snacilbuper Oct 2014 #73

Some prominent Christians are murderers. Marr Oct 2014 #77

Wow, I'm an atheist and not once have I attended Atheist Mass. I'm a bad atheist. valerief Oct 2014 #80

Yeah, it's a shame they're not enlightened like those Catholic, Baptist, Mormon & Orthodox Jewish Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #81

I'm an atheist leader and I have no thoughts on women atheist leaders pro or con? juxtaposed Oct 2014 #89

Well they *are* a product of our culture and time, like any others. eShirl Oct 2014 #92