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In reply to the discussion: Dear White Racists... [View all]JonLP24
(29,916 posts)Basic probability regarding that. About 1% to 4% are sociopaths so there is a good chance a sociopath also read this here (DU would be a good place for those chaos games sociopaths love).
Anyways, the logic behind racism amazes me and the distances one will go. They'll say they got this going for them, that going them, why are the whining? etc. Hello?? They have to live in a world w/ many others with the same sort of opinion and they hold job interviews, sit on juries, grant loans, etc.
Where I live is very racist. At a institutional level Hispanics, Mexican-Americans, Mexicans are the most profiled and discriminated against in this state (often other races are outnumbered 3:1) but when you get to the "regular Joe" level you'll see some Native Americans and Mexican-Americans OK, find a lot of whites to be cool while these racist whites are racist to those groups but reserve a special contempt for Blacks and they seem to be at the bottom of racists totem pole no matter the race. I've even seen Natives bigoted towards other Natives who belong to/or are from a different tribe(though I imagine this could be similar to English-Americans being bigoted towards Irish immigrants). Thankfully this isn't universal but it is common around here how could anyone say there isn't anything inherently unfair where you don't have to constantly to deal with people that think they are beneath them (though most racists are cowards who act very different--this where I think the logic behind these ignorant beliefs should break down). Not scientific but based on observations of racist & bigoted statements made in my years in Arizona (My experience in Sea-Tac & the Military (but still there) were very different)
Everyone is disliked by somebody due to their skin color but European-Americans have it easy though a lot of it is simply distrust, when it comes to African-Americans, you have quite a few people detesting you, interracial relationships bring out a certain level (I lost count how many rocks were thrown at us just because I was with someone that was black), over something you have no control of. And how could anyone deny that reality? Could you imagine how insulting that is?
Where is that old Tim Wise clip speaking at Tulane? Did a great job of explaining fault vs responsibility. (This is my own example) It wasn't your fault a guest you had over where you're a tenant in an apartment complex vandalized & broke into a vehicle when he was leaving your place but you're responsible. There are better examples but you get the point. If you're not the cause of the situation don't worry about it (white privilege certainly doesn't offend me as a white man) but focus on what you can do to solve the problem and don't start by denying there is a problem. (if you're honestly baffled watch some clips of "What would you do?"
In all honestly you don't have to do anything but denying it--I understand how the interpretation of "privilege" in this contest can lead to these arguments that distract from the real issue so I'm willing to ban that word in sake of discussion but any more than that leads me to be suspicious of your motives.
One other thing, being rich vs poor is an advantage but separate like being an American would give you a natural advantage over someone from a poor, authoritarian country. Handicap physical or otherwise is a natural disadvantage to the rest of the population like the Oprah exception. Economics is part of the natural disadvantage for African-Americans--this fact was around when we were in a recession or almost one (around the bailout) that they've been in a recession since the Reagan administration. 400 billionaires'-- which includes the only African-American billionaire--net worth is on par w/ 14 million African-American households. African-Americans & Latinos have a roughly 45% home ownership rate while whites are around 75%. They make up 13% of the nation's population but have 2% of the nation's total wealth. Median income for whites outnumber blacks by some $90,000. The numbers in poverty, unemployment, etc. W/ the wealth gap going up the problems will only get worse. It is obvious there is something going on whether you want to call it privilege or not and if you want to go with the "not racist" option a 2003 study showed white sounding names were 50% more likely to get called for an initial interview. Much more proof can be found but if you doubt it at this point I can't help you(only the clip rec on "what would you do?" should be sufficient)It is a vicious cycle and instead of worrying about blame, focus on doing something about it.
I miss BlooInBloo & RaineyB, they were the best at simplifying the bullshit, specifically BlooInBloo could make all the points I just made in one sentence. RaineyB who was the best at confronting head-on, in one of those countless "white privilege" she told another poster 'you want me (or us) to throw you a party for not being racist' in response to a comment which said that white people should be thanked for helping Barack Obama's election.
I don't know why they were banned but I'm afraid, especially in RaineyB's case that it wasn't for her battles which were often w/ the same damn posters who not only have the privilege of reality, but also the privilege of denying that reality for others.