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68. Not this Third Way bullshit again.
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:33 PM
Oct 2014

The Social Security cuts are still on the table, where they will remain until the government tires of USING the threat of them to slide through other types of vicious austerity. The PR machine seriously needs new talking points, because this alternate reality in which Americans have not been repeatedly and deliberately gutted under this administration using these threats as a TOOL is growing beyond tiresome.

Every Democrat, every American, should be sick of the constant Third Way claim that these Social Security threats have been just words and didn't harm anyone. They have harmed EVERYONE.

1. Without the threatened axe of Social Security cuts (which kept returning as the austerity kept escalating), the Third Way would never have been able to sell the vicious budget and social program cuts they HAVE inflicted on Americans...by justifying them as the lesser of two evils.

If you had told us a few years ago that the Barack Obama administration would be presiding over government spending that assaults the poor even more viciously than the RYAN plan, we would never have believed it. Yet that is exactly where we found ourselves, surrounded by corporate mouthpieces exhorting us to be grateful, "because he didn't cut Social Security."

No, what he DID was collude with Republicans in the debt ceiling fiasco to orchestrate a situation in which the only possible outcomes were austerity or even more vicious austerity. We sat here and watched the entire obscene process, including lecturing speeches about eating our peas and inexplicable right-wing offers like this coming from a Democratic president....all of which crap we were expected to swallow gratefully, "because at least he didn't cut Social Security."


Look at the OFFERS: Look what passes for Democratic "representation."
Look at where our Democratic president starts with OFFERS.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022060108

Third Way Surreal: President seeks credit for election-year pause in his own hostage-taking.
He's *temporarily* removing, during an election year, the ax *he* suspends over our heads repeatedly as a tool to continue implementing vicious Third Way austerity. ('It will remain on the table." )
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=733502


2. For years, Republicans have drummed lies into the heads of the American people about the source of our economic problems and how to fix them. They have pushed vicious austerity and malignant, economy-starving deficit-cutting instead of the real help to the 99 percent that is needed, and they have preached lies about the need to cut SS and LIES about its contribution to the deficit.

President Obama had from Day One of this Presidency to correct Republican lies linking deficits and Social Security. He had from Day One to correct lies recommending austerity for the "health" of the country. Three hundred economists stood up early in his presidency and warned about these vicious Republican lies. But Obama instead chose to cement for the entire country the vicious Republican narrative that austerity was needed and to repeat the lies tying SS to the deficit. He CEMENTED the lies and and made them a *bipartisan* narrative in a way that we will struggle to correct for a long, long time. These lies damaged our country, and they viciously poisoned the message and identity and reputation of our party. We are two relentlessly lying corporate parties now.


And the fleecing continues. We just got yet another round of food stamp cuts signed by this president, and a farm bill based on pension smoothing. And all the other assaults that have been posted here over and over and over again. And still we are treated to the surreal, Orwellian lectures of the PR machine exhorting us to be grateful that the SS cuts are off the table during this election year, even though the administration itself says they will be back....because this president persists in perpetuating the right-wing lie that they should be connected to the general fund.

Thanks to this administration, we have massive, new longterm war of choice to pay for. What's that gonna cost? Oh, and let's not forget Obama's TRILLION dollar commitment to ramp up our nuclear program! And what's on the horizon economically? Obama's TPP and TISA, which will further gut American jobs and wages and trade away our democratic protections against predatory corporations.

Corporate money floods Washington, and these manipulations by the two corporate parties are what we get as a result. That, and this absurd PR that tries to pretend that what they do to us every single day isn't really happening. Your attempt here to sell all of it with some pathetic reference to gazillion dimensional chess is the obscene Third Way cherry on top.

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I agree, I fault him for that too madokie Oct 2014 #1
Sadly, I can't disagree liberalmike27 Oct 2014 #21
Just wait if the GOP gets control of the Senate, you ain't seen nothing yet n/t n2doc Oct 2014 #2
He was gullible. He assumed they were decent people. They are not. nt Logical Oct 2014 #3
Amen to that. How in the hell do you "reach out" to a group of Sociopaths ? BlueJazz Oct 2014 #4
he wasn't gullible. KG Oct 2014 #9
President Obama is not gullible ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #13
Nope, at some point you realize they are not cooperating. He was gullible. nt Logical Oct 2014 #15
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #19
"Gullible" is unfair, but he was too optimistic for too long Jim Lane Oct 2014 #65
Quick question ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #69
Evaluating compromises can be tricky, but here are some guesses. Jim Lane Oct 2014 #76
I think you're right. Rose Siding Oct 2014 #29
So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #32
He appealed to the better angels in all of us, and that's a big deal. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #61
Oh, puh-leeze. woo me with science Oct 2014 #26
and how does any President overide a hostile congress? LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #89
Like trying to shake the paw of a rabid dog CanonRay Oct 2014 #5
I guess that's better than no stump at all. Fuddnik Oct 2014 #6
His core beliefs seem to be something like MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #7
And as far as Splitting goes liberalmike27 Oct 2014 #22
That's presumably how 82% of the Bush tax cuts became permanent MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #35
That list would be a purely subjective projection, as you must know. Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #62
"seem to be" is what I wrote MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #72
He's been the president of the United States for almost 6 years BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #74
I agree with the first two..... PragmaticLiberal Oct 2014 #91
Obama campaigned vigorously all across the country to get ACA passed. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #93
Actually, my #2 is plain ol' Manny #%^* MannyGoldstein Oct 2014 #95
Nevermind. Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #96
No way was Obama that naive. This is theater. It's managed democracy. eomer Oct 2014 #8
His Cabinet and Staff Choices showed that he was working with KoKo Oct 2014 #20
Nailed it. Thanks KoKo. Scuba Oct 2014 #24
Excellent post, KoKo. QC Oct 2014 #27
+100% - Great Reponse! n/t mazzarro Oct 2014 #28
+1 leftstreet Oct 2014 #34
+ n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #39
Thumbs up on your post. Thespian2 Oct 2014 #46
Yes. Thanks, KoKo, well said. nt Zorra Oct 2014 #48
But, magic wands, ponies and he's not a dictator! Kermitt Gribble Oct 2014 #50
Yep. His first term nominations were a tip off. Also, it was merrily Oct 2014 #52
+1000000000 woo me with science Oct 2014 #53
+10000000000000 woo me with science Oct 2014 #54
yup. nt m-lekktor Oct 2014 #67
+1000. Well stated KoKo! nt adirondacker Oct 2014 #75
^^^^^^^The correct answer^^^^^^^ woo me with science Oct 2014 #23
Exactly n/t Kermitt Gribble Oct 2014 #49
That is my view as well. DC kabuki, played mostly for the merrily Oct 2014 #51
Bingo! BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #73
Super Posts this morning coldbeer Oct 2014 #10
Exactly. 99Forever Oct 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Oct 2014 #12
I agree with post #8. Almost all of his appointments are conservatives. That's not "reaching rhett o rick Oct 2014 #14
I thought he was he keeping his powder dry. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #16
I'm not trying to start a fight, but that awareness of who and where the enemies are and what... northoftheborder Oct 2014 #17
I doubt very much that HRC will be any more liberal than Obama has been mazzarro Oct 2014 #33
Or, she would have been 1000X worse. With imaginary Presidencies, merrily Oct 2014 #55
He made the mistake of thinking the republicans were Kingofalldems Oct 2014 #18
I very highly doubt that is a mistake he made. merrily Oct 2014 #56
He has to - they hold the purse strings treestar Oct 2014 #25
What an absurd post. woo me with science Oct 2014 #30
Democrats play the role of enabler/appeaser in this Kabuki theater. JEB Oct 2014 #31
Before that, it was Carter and he had a Dem majority in both houses. merrily Oct 2014 #57
Remember he placed Social Security on the table under the guise of reaching out... raindaddy Oct 2014 #36
and Medicare. And he did cut fuel subsidies and SNAP. merrily Oct 2014 #58
That's the meme but there's more to it than that. ucrdem Oct 2014 #37
+ for this as well. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2014 #40
Not this Third Way bullshit again. woo me with science Oct 2014 #68
Nuking Moscow is still on the table too. Don't count your gotchas before they're hatched. nt ucrdem Oct 2014 #78
Just because bombing sorties aren't in the headlines doesn't mean squat. progressoid Oct 2014 #79
It means that ISIS is no longer Benghazi. ucrdem Oct 2014 #82
The threat has been decisively addressed? progressoid Oct 2014 #85
Today's New York Times front page: "Obama" = 19 hits, "Syria" = 0 ucrdem Oct 2014 #86
So, out of sight, out of mind? progressoid Oct 2014 #87
Neither, but isolated strikes do not an air war make. ucrdem Oct 2014 #97
He's still got two years to go BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #83
Obama isn't going to torch the place on his way out ucrdem Oct 2014 #84
That describes the first two years. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #38
The best defense is a good offense. I say overwhelm them with so much the relent. ffr Oct 2014 #41
Yes. It'll take much more than a president. Orsino Oct 2014 #43
Laws generally don't get passed without them. Orsino Oct 2014 #42
Education aside... humbled_opinion Oct 2014 #44
The OP definitely nailed that one world wide wally Oct 2014 #45
Ironic AnAzulTexas Oct 2014 #47
Plausible deniability? merrily Oct 2014 #59
I see what you did there. woo me with science Oct 2014 #71
no sarcasm meant AnAzulTexas Oct 2014 #77
Here's the thing, folks. Regardless of what the idiot 5 SCROTUMS say, mountain grammy Oct 2014 #60
The corporate right has been over represented for years. I didn't donate, work, and vote to TheKentuckian Oct 2014 #66
This cartoon shows Obama, but he is just an icon for most of the Democratic Party. CrispyQ Oct 2014 #63
agreed. The voters who swept him and the democrats into office in 08 did not Doctor_J Oct 2014 #64
One should never reach out to a rattlesnake, or a rabid animal. Autumn Oct 2014 #70
It's appalling how the GOP comes right out and says they will just oppose everything Marrah_G Oct 2014 #80
I blame the leadership of the Party just as much. kentuck Oct 2014 #81
The President did very well considering the toxicity LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #88
So true. I wish he would've taken FDR's approach to the reich wing workinclasszero Oct 2014 #90
So, who are you voting for in 2016? Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #92
and a lot of good health care others got, I don't think Obama LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #94
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