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CANDO

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42. Sorry
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 02:09 PM
Oct 2014

You just can't get beyond this being an exercise in getting all respondents to surrender their own life's experiences and accepting yours as theirs. So do you think WP causes racism? Or is WP a byproduct of racism? Do you think I'm a racist because I was born white? I sure as heck don't consider myself racist even if I quibble with your viewpoints. If you disagree with my viewpoint, does that make me wrong, or is it just a different opinion? And remember, I've stated that yes, what you describe as WP does exist even though I don't accept it as a privilege as much as I consider it my life's experiences. I mean, to me, being able to drive down the street unmolested by LEOs for no other reason as being white isn't a privilege, its called freedom and normal and should be the norm for everyone of all backgrounds. And at the same time, I can see that others being molested for the color of their skin is wrong and should be stamped out in a free society. Do you get what I'm saying? So you go about these threads as though WP is the problem when it isn't. R A C I S M is the problem. What you see as others being privileged is just from your perspective and that's fine. And if you think that the problem and root cause of racism is what you view as my privilege, well good luck. Myself being born white didn't cause the ignorant cop to shoot first and ask questions later. Now someone will chime in and say "but it's not about you". Well sorry, I disagree, because if racism is caused by WP(as these threads seem to imply), then it is about me. And if you don't think the privilege of others causes racism, then why these threads to begin with? And that's where these threads go wrong because the OP's are a mixed bag of confused logic. In the end, I'm not a racist. I don't condone it and think it needs to go. Does my privilege exist through your eyes? I suppose so even though I may not view it that way. I may not call it privilege so much as normalcy that we all should be afforded in a free society. Am I willing to work toward that goal even if we disagree about the details and definitions and opinions? Of course! It's a 2 way street, not a my way or the highway.

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The other day ... [View all] 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 OP
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I suspect this will go unanswered ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #3
I just read through that one JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #4
And what would that solution be? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #8
Check out AA JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #9
Yeah ... I just saw that ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #10
Maybe, I'm too impatient; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #7
That's a really good idea JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #2
The Soft Parade seveneyes Oct 2014 #5
Not certain how to go about it. Xyzse Oct 2014 #6
"I don't need to change it. That is their voice, mine is different." nomorenomore08 Oct 2014 #49
Perfect! Thank you, 1StrongBlackMan. FourScore Oct 2014 #11
One of the best OP's I've read all year. Direct and truthful. freshwest Oct 2014 #18
I'm white, try to live with difference, not live as if my candle shines brighter by blowing out ancianita Oct 2014 #12
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #13
Kind of you to say, thanks. ancianita Oct 2014 #16
Me too. A form of amazing grace, as it were, seeing into my soul when I needed help most. freshwest Oct 2014 #17
Thank you for your contribution ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #20
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5 hours and 309 views later ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #14
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Me too ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #19
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I think that was me. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #28
I think it's highly effective in one specific area Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #22
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No, I think posting a sarcastic jeremiad on one of the few sites where it will educate or convert Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #25
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Dear white folks, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #26
Appended note to the above... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #27
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The saddest part Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #37
Thank you ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #29
I tried to make it to a wider audience as well. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #31
Thank you. bravenak Oct 2014 #41
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Hm. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #64
Absolutely. And to show them how someone else's gain doesn't mean their loss. ancianita Oct 2014 #66
Great stuff! Hope I can remember half of it when I need to. Thank you! nt ancianita Oct 2014 #65
I'll respond at the risk of another PPR CANDO Oct 2014 #30
I don't think there's a single 'get it' or 'don't get it' binary. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #32
Thank you for the constructive reply. CANDO Oct 2014 #40
First ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #33
Sorry CANDO Oct 2014 #42
Racism in America is a problem attached to white privilege. bravenak Oct 2014 #47
You posted so I don't have to. Thanks. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #55
No prob, Wise Man.nt bravenak Oct 2014 #56
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THIS X 1000000 bettyellen Oct 2014 #69
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I must say I agree with your conclusion. sheshe2 Oct 2014 #39
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NOT malaise Oct 2014 #63
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