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Sunlei

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72. I don't believe in any conspiracy with 9/11, other than security lapses & lack of common sense.

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 03:31 PM

Oct 2014

Like locking cockpit doors after previous 20 or 30 hijackings.

We had couple very crappy presidents who didn't care what their admins did with America, did to Americans or did to anger & upset our very religious (religion is/was their gov)foreign interests.

Religious passion flew those planes into NYC.

Seems to me the 9/11 pilots had successful 'hijackings' and most of them hit their target before they were noticed. I think Bush wanted to shoot down airlines & knew that one pa. flight was for the White House. That's why Cheney went underground fast!, but it was to late. Even commercial air flights were forced to land in Canada. Thank God the Canadians helped the USA flights. Bush would have sent the F16s after all those innocent flights still up in the USA. Very cool your Dad was an F16! pilot.

Also imo, if the city authorities got everyone out of the towers and the surrounding buildings , right away!, many less people would have died.

If the CIA, FBI, President or any agency was watching the hijackers prepare, made reports/knew about the plans and didn't say enough or report anything, that's not a conspiracy it's gross negligence.

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The president was no longer laughing: "That man would kill me," he told them flatly..." [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

There are many people who would assassinate President Obama if they had the chance. MineralMan Oct 2014 #1

I have thought this too treestar Oct 2014 #3

drunken agents is inexcusable. mopinko Oct 2014 #5

what did happen to them? treestar Oct 2014 #6

NOTHING. mopinko Oct 2014 #16

nail meet head questionseverything Oct 2014 #64

I agree, "drunken agents is inexcusable" No drinking on or off duty would be my policy. Sunlei Oct 2014 #14

+1 treestar Oct 2014 #17

man, i suspect the world would change for the better pretty quick mopinko Oct 2014 #19

GOPers ain't having that - LOL Iliyah Oct 2014 #32

right? honestly i'd be happy mopinko Oct 2014 #34

they demand it of welfare recipients redruddyred Oct 2014 #96

please demigoddess Oct 2014 #53

grandma and youngest daughter were at home questionseverything Oct 2014 #63

An armed man permitted to ride in an elevator with the President . . . markpkessinger Oct 2014 #101

There seem to be a lot of them lately treestar Oct 2014 #102

if these things were the norm, no one would have leaked. mopinko Oct 2014 #106

I mean over time, say during the Reagan or Clinton Administration treestar Oct 2014 #107

they reacted appropriately, at least. mopinko Oct 2014 #109

my friend, you need to stop defending these people. mopinko Oct 2014 #4

I'm not defending anyone. I'm noting that no serious assassination MineralMan Oct 2014 #7

It may have been an unsuccesful attempt, but I assure you, hedgehog Oct 2014 #9

mmmm, man in elevator, pull gun shoot. now. the couple agents were seabeyond Oct 2014 #12

how much more serious do you want it to get? mopinko Oct 2014 #22

Thanks.. I agree, Mo. No slack for the SS agents who were responsible for letting Cha Oct 2014 #86

check the other ones that are shown there. she did several days in a row. mopinko Oct 2014 #91

Yeah, it would be interesting to see Rachel's show after Julia Pierson resigned.. Cha Oct 2014 #94

i want to see how they handle the leakers. mopinko Oct 2014 #103

I haven't read anything much about the "leakers".. mostly from you. I'll have to google,thanks. Cha Oct 2014 #118

and agents that insisted it was gun shots were told to stand down. mopinko Oct 2014 #26

"car backfiring"? Those agents need to go back to training school or resign and get people Cha Oct 2014 #88

difficult to see at night? mopinko Oct 2014 #90

I know.. it was a terrible defense. I just saw Rachel on this and I thank you again, Mo. Cha Oct 2014 #93

5 layers at least. mopinko Oct 2014 #110

Don't forget that fake sign language translator Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #11

i didnt hear about the fake sign language guy. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #13

"Translator" details here Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #20

thanks for info. interesting. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #31

I forgot about that guy. I was laughing so hard while being very appalled. uppityperson Oct 2014 #60

nope, they arent. mopinko Oct 2014 #116

Sometimes I think these incidents are deliberate. zeemike Oct 2014 #81

cant help but agree. mopinko Oct 2014 #115

Do you get the sense that MM doesn't take that incident seriously, or is it that he lives in denial? Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #83

i have no idea. i have respect for him, but mopinko Oct 2014 #114

Umm Hippo_Tron Oct 2014 #112

that will not help. the first black president being assassinated after these lapses mopinko Oct 2014 #113

The Secret Service let a criminal with a gun, who was obviously not playing with a full geek tragedy Oct 2014 #8

Wow, when was that? treestar Oct 2014 #18

Here's the news item. Fla Dem Oct 2014 #36

Thanks! treestar Oct 2014 #76

Why was the guy allowed to have a gun with his background. broiles Oct 2014 #55

Our Gov. allows contractors with 'non-felonies' to keep on taking our Federal money for contracts. Sunlei Oct 2014 #62

There was certainly a risk to the President's daughter and Michelle's mother. No risk to the monmouth3 Oct 2014 #10

He had just left moments before with his daughters. nt alphafemale Oct 2014 #15

5 minutes faster mopinko Oct 2014 #23

the one that bothered me the most humbled_opinion Oct 2014 #35

with all the concern about Ebola outbreak questionseverything Oct 2014 #66

All I can say is: G*d help the RW in America if ANYTHING. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2014 #49

I think that rule applies AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #82

I think maybe 1 in 10,000 RW nutbars would... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #119

this is why the ss thing is so incomprehensible to me. that man would kill him. mopinko Oct 2014 #2

Whisper movement of the RWNJs. n/t ffr Oct 2014 #21

Imagine what it is like to life every hour of your days like that. And it is not just him. It is his jwirr Oct 2014 #24

it's real travesty that the first family has to live with this, even at home. mopinko Oct 2014 #28

I know and it has always been this way for our presidents. At least since Lincoln. jwirr Oct 2014 #40

no, this is unprecedented. mopinko Oct 2014 #51

I meant the fear of assassination. jwirr Oct 2014 #52

"Antichrist" NastyRiffraff Oct 2014 #25

pretty sure it was one of those louder republicans who used that word about President O. first. Sunlei Oct 2014 #67

I remember when republican media kept publishing exactly where Presidents family was on vacation. Sunlei Oct 2014 #27

Yep. Still doing it but sorta kinda secretive tho. Iliyah Oct 2014 #33

Previous admininstration they would have taken him out of the crowd... Historic NY Oct 2014 #29

And Ferguson MO will look like a picnic if anything happens to our president. jwirr Oct 2014 #43

This is true. knitter4democracy Oct 2014 #100

If this had happened to Bush Jr MsLeopard Oct 2014 #44

Pres O has the outward strenght and the inward courage. Iliyah Oct 2014 #30

"No evidence to support claim about threats against Obama" EX500rider Oct 2014 #45

I don't believe it. justgamma Oct 2014 #97

Please...plenty of people right here make it "perfectly clear" they want/wanted Bush dead. EX500rider Oct 2014 #111

The message is being sent og1 Oct 2014 #37

Conspiracy theory much? Oy. n/t DeadLetterOffice Oct 2014 #41

+1 Duppers Oct 2014 #47

Quoting the recently resigned Secret Service Director ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2014 #38

"'the careful protection the Secret Service provides''. Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #39

They can make that fence hard/impossible to scale & keep it beautiful, for a start! Sunlei Oct 2014 #42

they have motion sensors in and out but Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #46

The 'off duty' agent should be promoted! I really think 'work on the fence' is good common sense Sunlei Oct 2014 #56

The Supreme Court later noted, MKULTRA was: Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #58

Americans suffer today with the worse Congress in our history. They throw all of us under their bus Sunlei Oct 2014 #65

You need to rexaminedt the evidence and data again Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #71

I don't believe in any conspiracy with 9/11, other than security lapses & lack of common sense. Sunlei Oct 2014 #72

Show your 'F16 Dad' Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #80

He will at least he was diligent. Historic NY Oct 2014 #75

I remember the reports of people being kicked out of... 3catwoman3 Oct 2014 #48

I'm not a conspiracy nut, but.... George II Oct 2014 #50

Leaking Obama's schedule during the campaign was not "unconsciously" intentional. Maineman Oct 2014 #59

I know I am not alone... ReRe Oct 2014 #54

Some jackwagon on townhall.com TheCowsCameHome Oct 2014 #57

Lee Harvey Oswald was at a CIA meeting Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #61

the kennedy assassination tapes show questionseverything Oct 2014 #69

The Secret Service protocols were compromised Ichingcarpenter Oct 2014 #70

How many runs did the Saudi's make newblewtoo Oct 2014 #68

And Repukes would cheer the man on! Rex Oct 2014 #73

Just read the whole article at my kitchen table in the Times. I hope they follow up... Hekate Oct 2014 #74

CNN should spend as much time on this as they did on MH370 treestar Oct 2014 #105

No. This is a job for intelligent & thoughtful reporting, not 24/7 bloviating to no purpose. Hekate Oct 2014 #117

It's true AnAzulTexas Oct 2014 #77

Obama needs one of these, just in case Gawd is distracted. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #78

Image URL http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/15/article-1311980-0B30ACA2000005DC-662_634x412.jpg blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #79

Chill out! StoneCarver Oct 2014 #84

really. i was at one during the campaign. i was on the rope line. i disobeyed orders. mopinko Oct 2014 #92

The closest I came to them was in 1992 treestar Oct 2014 #104

i have been to quite a few events, mopinko Oct 2014 #108

I'd do it rtracey Oct 2014 #85

And kill him The Wizard Oct 2014 #87

This Is A Predictable Consequence DallasNE Oct 2014 #89

THe SS is a fucking joke maindawg Oct 2014 #95

Be safe, Mr. President. defacto7 Oct 2014 #98

There is a company in Colombia that makes beautiful ballistic clothing. MADem Oct 2014 #99