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In reply to the discussion: Duncan is now on a ventilator [View all]uppityperson
(115,725 posts)23. From what I've gathered, it is an overly done immune response, followed by DIC clotting,
leading to multiple emboli causing organ injury (liver, kidneys, brain, digestive tract) followed by lack of clotting (factor or platlets, not sure) causing bleeding internally and massive bruising. Treatment involves large doses of heparin to minimize the clotting, and supportive measures while the body tries and heals itself.
Simplistically put. Most of the damage is connective tissue, with resulting fucking up of everything else. Techno-jargon there.
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I haven't heard anything about the special new drub they used on the two envangelists.
MohRokTah
Oct 2014
#1
I'll take that bet. They didn't have it for Dr. Sacra. It won't be available for several months. nt
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#7
I'd forgotten about that. The link says there's still a very short supply.
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#15
Well, he didn't lie and he acted responsibly, isolating himself and self-reporting.
pnwmom
Oct 2014
#28
ok, here is a link to CNN. They don't specify Zmapp but just experimental treatments in general
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#20
His organs need maximum oxygen, due to the nature of the disease process and
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#4
I'm guessing the clotting preceeds or is the front end to the hemorrhagic phase
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#5
I'm guessing it's more similiar to the type of thing that happens with certain types
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#10
I just remember reading a description in the last week or two that reminded me of DIC, with
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#14
From what I've gathered, it is an overly done immune response, followed by DIC clotting,
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#23
I should've been a researcher. Would love to read a full pathophys write up. Hmmm. for later viewing
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#29
So immune response (cytokines) plus direct damage to endothelium is what causes
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#34
Some people think I am weird but I like to find out about things, find it interesting
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#40
Yep, blow off more CO2, or less, as needed. It must be hard to manage this guy--
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#22
Hot, cumbersome, takes twenty minutes to do something that usually takes 5, and
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#25
If they're lucky, no neurology or cardiology, I guess! With the combined critical care and huge
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#30
If he has a brain bleed, due to the disease or heparin, does he go to CT? MRI?
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#36
They probably have an ICU set-up, wherever he is, but just didn't declare him critical
TwilightGardener
Oct 2014
#38
I thought I read that they were out of Zmapp and that duncan would not be getting any.
notadmblnd
Oct 2014
#17
I just provided a link stating that. The article is dated yesterday and based on everything I've
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#18
time will tell. they will give him full support. late in the disease, even though there is massive
magical thyme
Oct 2014
#42