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JimDandy

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30. I agree the fever threshhold definitely should be lowered.
Sun Oct 5, 2014, 12:10 PM
Oct 2014

Mr Duncan and most other individuals with cases of Ebola here in the US will probably be taking Ibuprofen for the headaches and pains that are one of the first symptoms of this disease.

We grow up having pain/headache medication like that on hand at all times at home and will be reaching for it at the earliest sign of observable symptoms of the disease, when it can and obviously does mask as some less important malady (But antibiotics Presby Hospital? Really?)

Medication like that reduces the 101.5 fevers airports and hospitals are counting on to reveal the disease in their facilities and isolate such cases from the rest of the public.

If the 101.5 temp is the revelatory norm for Ebola in a country where people don't have Ibuprofen on hand at home, then we should not be comfortable using that as the norm in the US, if we want to catch this disease at an early stage here.

Losing a day or two to identify Ebola cases, due to not having the magic 101.5 fever, may put us behind countries like Liberia as far as the advantage of time. Liberia is losing the Ebola battle due to not having the facilities/equipment/supplies/personnel to handle it. The U.S. does not have those problems, but if the loss of 1-2 days to identify cases in the US is equal to that loss of facilities etc, then we may get no better results (without Zmapp or some other drug) than Liberia is getting.

Mr Duncan's case may prove this if he does not survive.

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Locally at this time, this enterovirus 68 is of greater concern. eom Purveyor Oct 2014 #1
I would agree with that. n/t defacto7 Oct 2014 #2
Yup In_The_Wind Oct 2014 #17
I certainly... onyourleft Oct 2014 #41
Right now paranoia is at a fever pitch. Ebola will be seen everywhere Warpy Oct 2014 #3
I also hear that no one is turned away from ER for lack of $/insurance. What to believe.... LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #4
Treat 'em and street 'em Warpy Oct 2014 #5
Antibiotics for a viral flu - cwydro Oct 2014 #6
Better that than sending any more Ebola patients home with antibiotics. nt pnwmom Oct 2014 #7
Ditto. nt cwydro Oct 2014 #10
I'd rather have people be paranoid, than hospitals sending people like Mr. Duncan home from the ER. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #9
Oh, I sincerely hope a lot of people are paying very close attention to this one Warpy Oct 2014 #11
You certainly don't get a "first world health care system" Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #12
The most significant ball they are currently dropping is that kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #33
Panic and hysteria jambo101 Oct 2014 #8
The infection rates are growing exponentially, and it is 70-90% lethal. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #13
We are taking it seriously. jambo101 Oct 2014 #14
And Alan Grayson has been saying for months we need to stop letting travelers in from those 3 Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #15
Totally agree with your assessment of Rush. jambo101 Oct 2014 #16
I am pretty well informed on this topic, without having to abuse my brain listening to that turd. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #18
Thank you for that excellent overview! Lars39 Oct 2014 #19
You expressed my feeling so much better and far more intelligently nc4bo Oct 2014 #20
Thats a long one.. jambo101 Oct 2014 #21
It was very clearly explained that if Duncan infected people, LisaL Oct 2014 #23
Well then in 21 days from Sept 28 we'll have more to say on the issue jambo101 Oct 2014 #37
Let's see- straw man, false dichotomy, red herring Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #40
there are 9 people on the CDC's short list. That includes the ambulance EMTs who picked him up magical thyme Oct 2014 #25
I agree the fever threshhold definitely should be lowered. JimDandy Oct 2014 #30
the course of the disease remains the same, so while 3-4 days of nontreatment magical thyme Oct 2014 #31
If Mr Duncan dies, we will need JimDandy Oct 2014 #32
the course of the disease is the same, regardless magical thyme Oct 2014 #36
IMO, Warren's post was reasonable and rational distantearlywarning Oct 2014 #28
Of course the concerns are justified. I hope he didn't infect anyone else- he may well have not. Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #38
Add to that, official numbers coming out of Africa likely are vastly lower than LisaL Oct 2014 #22
That's pretty much in line with my opinion on Grayson. Barack_America Oct 2014 #27
"human rights" = not restricting travel from an area with a deadly outbreak? Warren DeMontague Oct 2014 #39
Rush Limbaugh versus left wing sources? How about simply reading the medical information? nt magical thyme Oct 2014 #26
Rush and Dennis Miller? Those are not sources most of DU would consider credible. suffragette Oct 2014 #29
You listen to Rushbo. That tells me all I need to know about you. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #35
I got the time jambo101 Oct 2014 #43
there have been 5 people quarantined, 4 of them diagnosed prior to entry and treated at facilities magical thyme Oct 2014 #24
Tell West Africa or the families of the dead that it's a "non-issue" kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #34
Is it true that bleach kills Ebola? Wella Oct 2014 #42
We arent talking about unfortunate victims in west Africa. jambo101 Oct 2014 #44
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