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Kelvin Mace

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3. If you have a stock portfolio the economy is fabulous

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 12:59 PM

Oct 2014

If you are in the bottom 80% who relies on minimum wage and a series of part-time jobs, with no benefits, you are screwed.

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It’s Official: President Obama Is The Best Economic President In Modern Times [View all] zappaman Oct 2014 OP

Typically, republicans have tried to detract from the president’s accomplishments." BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #1

you better believe it!!! zappaman Oct 2014 #2

How many BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #4

Imagine what could have been done zappaman Oct 2014 #18

And it's that what frustrates me the most - to put it mildly. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #70

I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #22

+1 zappaman Oct 2014 #48

+2. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #69

Boom! You just nailed it, Andy! sheshe2 Oct 2014 #82

Yep, well said! n/t Spazito Oct 2014 #128

Agree. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #166

Didn't add much, did they? zappaman Oct 2014 #174

Good grief, you're right! They might prevent him from being re-elected! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #5

Nobody is "ignoring" those variables. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #72

In fact, I've said kudos to him on a number of occasions. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #87

You know what? I lost my job and never found another notadmblnd Oct 2014 #111

No, you are not correct. U6 accounts for discouraged workers and it has trended down dramatically stevenleser Oct 2014 #125

Let's all mass at the top of the thread and agree with one another woo me with science Oct 2014 #25

Better yet.... Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #133

Well, they never bothered with that part of it when bush/cheney was president. calimary Oct 2014 #47

Makes one wonder, doesn't it? eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #73

Indeed! calimary Oct 2014 #91

I couldn't have written it better than you, calimary! BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #117

Ratios are apparently quite hard to understand MFrohike Oct 2014 #71

Thank you. Excellent point. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #83

The article in Forbes to which the OP linked accounted for that as does the U6 unemployment measure stevenleser Oct 2014 #126

Heh MFrohike Oct 2014 #161

All the evidence proves you wrong. If you understood U-6 you would know that. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #162

Cool MFrohike Oct 2014 #164

There's a very simple explanation as to why a lot are dropping out of the labor force OnlinePoker Oct 2014 #135

The huge rise in the DOW is also helping JoePhilly Oct 2014 #153

If you have a stock portfolio the economy is fabulous Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #3

+1 leftstreet Oct 2014 #6

Are you implying only 20 percent have a sock portfolio? yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #12

52% have some stock ownership n2doc Oct 2014 #44

And many of us who have a little bit in a portfolio, had to stop making liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #52

jaysus. seriously? make stuff up much? cali Oct 2014 #62

+1 liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #34

That is a very valid point. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2014 #42

+++ fadedrose Oct 2014 #68

Which has very little to do with the point of the OP. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #138

Remember when the bushies were bragging about creating louis-t Oct 2014 #7

Democrats trying to save their a***** should be touting Obama's accomplishments Frustratedlady Oct 2014 #8

I would sincerely hope that Democrats do NOT try this trick. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #84

Great for the Corporate Elite... 99Forever Oct 2014 #9

Yes ONLY the corporate elite are better off now zappaman Oct 2014 #10

To a large degree, it is so. 99Forever Oct 2014 #11

Okey dokey. zappaman Oct 2014 #13

Nice response. 99Forever Oct 2014 #15

Not dismissing at all. zappaman Oct 2014 #19

Under President Sanders, life will be better for all... 99Forever Oct 2014 #37

Surely, you're not that politically naive? BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #76

Tell me what bills President Sanders passes with a right-wing Congress. NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #94

Heh... your simple but thoughtful question could not have been ignored any harder Number23 Oct 2014 #116

If he had this congress Obama has to deal with? zappaman Oct 2014 #97

Same lame excuses, different day. 99Forever Oct 2014 #98

This congress who has been against Obama since the moment he took office zappaman Oct 2014 #99

More people would buy that excuse if the President actually fought for the people instead of liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #100

Yes, he should be a dictator. zappaman Oct 2014 #101

so how many people have to live in poverty before the democrats wake up? liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #103

Obama is the one responsible for making an honest effort. 99Forever Oct 2014 #102

exactly. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #104

So you're unhappy that Obama is honest? zappaman Oct 2014 #105

I am not going to go round in circles with you. You go be happy with the President. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Oct 2014 #107

You are actually very wrong. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #136

but..but..but.. Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #108

I am so glad I am not a democrat anymore. I hope you won't miss my vote this year. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #109

Good Lord Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #110

Wow. zappaman Oct 2014 #112

If you're not a Democrat, why are you here? zappaman Oct 2014 #113

I can only imagine the convenience of perceiving the world in a consistent either-or fashion. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #139

Just curious Andy823 Oct 2014 #23

What does that have to do with anything? 99Forever Oct 2014 #35

Well Andy823 Oct 2014 #49

Actually a question TBF Oct 2014 #57

Classic name calling Andy823 Oct 2014 #58

Can't handle the substance TBF Oct 2014 #60

Yep Andy823 Oct 2014 #120

Again avoiding the substance - how does insulting TBF Oct 2014 #123

Honest question, my ass. 99Forever Oct 2014 #61

Wow Andy823 Oct 2014 #122

I didn't "try to paint you" as ... 99Forever Oct 2014 #141

Maybe you should read what I posted Andy823 Oct 2014 #165

Well bud... 99Forever Oct 2014 #167

Well Andy823 Oct 2014 #168

Blah.. blah... blah... 99Forever Oct 2014 #169

We need someone dishonest like Bernie Sanders! zappaman Oct 2014 #172

You don't seem to grasp that stating the facts- cali Oct 2014 #65

... progressoid Oct 2014 #89

For you. bravenak Oct 2014 #51

the middle classes are largely NOT better off. The lower middle class certainly isn't cali Oct 2014 #63

Number of jobs only say so much. Neoma Oct 2014 #14

Acording to Obama “Median family incomes, that’s one that is not doing better,” Autumn Oct 2014 #16

But, but, but the economy is doing sooooo gooood! Phlem Oct 2014 #17

If the people aren't doing good, the economy isn't doing good. Autumn Oct 2014 #39

I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #50

The chocolate ration has been increased! (Low-wage jobs replace middle-income work) woo me with science Oct 2014 #20

excellent reference material here! I wonder since stock market participation is at all time low whereisjustice Oct 2014 #33

And your point is????? BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #46

thank you, thank you, thank you! cali Oct 2014 #66

I highly recommend this post! Pastiche423 Oct 2014 #157

(*) for the wealthy. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #21

+1 That asterisk says a whole lot for the 50 million in poverty. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #26

India's booming Democracy has 340 million people living at or below $1.24/day and you whereisjustice Oct 2014 #31

Very important asterisk. nt woo me with science Oct 2014 #29

But the Debbie Downers at DU keep telling us everything is shit... SidDithers Oct 2014 #24

Oh well zappaman Oct 2014 #40

I dub them serial complainers. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #77

"Edit: not surprisingly, they're all over your thread." Number23 Oct 2014 #92

Exactly... SidDithers Oct 2014 #114

I can see how annoying and hurtful it is to you whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #124

... SidDithers Oct 2014 #134

I would suggest there's a difference between a foreign co-founder whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #145

Really, the only answer that tired old trope even deserves Number23 Oct 2014 #160

Believe Canada! BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #115

The perpetually disgruntled aren't happy!! JoePhilly Oct 2014 #154

But...but...but... valerief Oct 2014 #27

Yes he is, because his policies have worked. lovemydog Oct 2014 #28

k&r... spanone Oct 2014 #30

No president pushing for TPP and TISA woo me with science Oct 2014 #32

Thank you. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #36

Remember this is Forbes and for the rich, Obama has been great. For the non-rich, pretty much whereisjustice Oct 2014 #38

yup. Phlem Oct 2014 #54

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Damn commie, fascist, socialist, Kenyan Muslim! FlatStanley Oct 2014 #41

Perhaps you remember the later Clinton years during the dot.com bubble amandabeech Oct 2014 #43

Democrats aren't trying to detract from his accomplishments, we're trying to get him to do more yurbud Oct 2014 #45

Some definitely are, they pretend the obstructionists in congress do not exist, and give POTUS no bettyellen Oct 2014 #59

+1 Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #75

I'm sorry but I have zero trust in anyone who used to be a republican.... bettyellen Oct 2014 #80

+2000. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #78

Democrats could have ended obstruction in Senate by yurbud Oct 2014 #129

and that will be great when a Republican does the same right? We need to take back Congress to fix bettyellen Oct 2014 #131

How often did Democrats use filibuster when Bush was president yurbud Oct 2014 #142

How does Republican obstruction stop Wall St prosecution? yurbud Oct 2014 #130

The unwillingness to prosecute AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #150

and our Third Way president can't blame that on Republican obstruction--he CHOSE to do nothing. yurbud Oct 2014 #158

How does Republican obstruction force obama's corrupt K-12 privatization policy? yurbud Oct 2014 #132

He not only didn't prosecute Wall St, he's giving them our public education yurbud Oct 2014 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #53

Or the Economist Phlem Oct 2014 #55

Actually many aren't happy with Obama AndreaCG Oct 2014 #67

That is an interesting way of dodging the substance of the OP, but it's still a dodge. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #137

For the 1%, yes, for the rest of us not so much. kickysnana Oct 2014 #74

"modern times" - what does that mean . . . . 2000's? DrDan Oct 2014 #79

It means since the end of the second world war. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #127

By any measure, people are actually worse off now. alarimer Oct 2014 #170

No doubt - the 1% have prospered DrDan Oct 2014 #171

Republicans are why the "middle class" aren't doing better killbotfactory Oct 2014 #81

Imagine what he could have done if he had a working congress to help him. jwirr Oct 2014 #85

This in spite of despicable GOP obstruction at every turn smelling of economic indepat Oct 2014 #86

I agree somewhat..... robthesocialist Oct 2014 #88

Probably why a recent poll in this forum has the president's support at around 84 freaking percent Number23 Oct 2014 #90

Lots of Nattering Nabobs of Negativism in this thread. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #93

I'll make sure to thank him the next time I have to take money out of my 401(k) just to liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #152

Well, that's depressing. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #96

I'm gonna rec this because TBF Oct 2014 #118

True. zappaman Oct 2014 #119

But that will only make the GOP angrier and nastier than they already are. Now they are focused on kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #121

Let them eat cake Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #140

and precisely what policies of his were enacted that led to this? stupidicus Oct 2014 #143

The article only compares him to Reagan AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #144

No, it doesn't. The title says best economic President in modern times. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #147

Without proof AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #148

The whole article is proof as it contrasts him with the guy previously thought of as best. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #151

That is absurd on it's face AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #173

Nothin' But Good Times Ahead Orsino Oct 2014 #146

Secrets divulged on election Night in November guyfromla Oct 2014 #149

Yay the least stinky turd in the bowl! Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #155

The numbers may say it R.Quinn Oct 2014 #156

Dems need to run some ads about this Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #163

Krugman on why Obama is a historic success pampango Oct 2014 #175