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unrepentant progress

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3. I think this is maybe a solution in search of a problem

Mon Oct 6, 2014, 12:04 AM

Oct 2014

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Teen pregnancy has been plummeting for decades. Guttmacher doesn't distinguish between "sexually experienced" teens and all teens, but even looking at sexually experienced teens we're still talking about 16% of teen women who have sex becoming pregnant. That's about the same as the mean failure rate for female condoms, and over 2 percentage points less than the failure rate for male condoms (according to the CDC). You'd have to practically implant an IUD in every single sexually active girl to budge those numbers. Providing free condoms to both guys and gals, as well as making sure abortions are freely available to pregnant teens who choose to go that route would be much more cost effective. Sadly, either of those things happening in these modern times is about as likely as IUDs being made available to teen women.

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A Super Simple Way To Cut Teen Pregnancy and Abortion Rates by 75% [View all] applegrove Oct 2014 OP

Because if you did simple things then the rich would not get their tax cuts. applegrove Oct 2014 #1

What? Help solve a problem..... daleanime Oct 2014 #2

I think this is maybe a solution in search of a problem unrepentant progress Oct 2014 #3

Huh? Looks like a big problem to me progree Oct 2014 #15

The OP - that's quite a budge - from 158 per 1000 to 34 per 1000 (a 78% drop) progree Oct 2014 #17

All this study really tells us is that IUDs are much more effective than barrier methods unrepentant progress Oct 2014 #43

Good, I'm glad they are. So we can reduce teen pregnancy to European levels or below progree Oct 2014 #45

How does this compare to other developed countries? NickB79 Oct 2014 #59

Damn I wish guys had to take responsibility for bc. marym625 Oct 2014 #4

I did ... Lenomsky Oct 2014 #5

risky. marym625 Oct 2014 #8

Biologically speaking, that's not safe at all. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #9

Damn right! Kath1 Oct 2014 #6

Amen sister! marym625 Oct 2014 #7

Amen rightbackatcha, Sister! Kath1 Oct 2014 #10

There's not even a mention marym625 Oct 2014 #11

Yes. I noticed that and it pissed me off. Kath1 Oct 2014 #12

LOL! got it! marym625 Oct 2014 #14

Condoms are still the most commonly used form of birth control amongst teens.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #16

Condoms: not a very reliable method, something like 1 in 6 chance of a pregnancy per year progree Oct 2014 #19

Well the upcoming generation will have that choice marym625 Oct 2014 #21

That had to be a terrible experience. Kath1 Oct 2014 #27

More power to you my friend!! :) marym625 Oct 2014 #29

In all honesty, I wasn't a saint. My concern about bc was motivated more by selfishness than progree Oct 2014 #34

What, no kiss? LOL Kidding! marym625 Oct 2014 #41

The hugging was for the afterglow after the kissing :) n/t progree Oct 2014 #46

I'm pretty sure you just pulled that figure RIGHT out of the air right LOL snooper2 Oct 2014 #28

CDC says 18% -- that's more than 1/6, actually 1/5.6 progree Oct 2014 #32

Is the failure rate just for getting pregnant..nuts, learned something new today snooper2 Oct 2014 #39

Accurate number marym625 Oct 2014 #33

LOL, we're in sync again! Just one minute apart with the exact same reference n/t progree Oct 2014 #36

Well, great minds and all marym625 Oct 2014 #42

Speaking of being in sync again -- the same 3 people progree Oct 2014 #47

Oh how cool marym625 Oct 2014 #48

I think saying "Not reliable at all" is an overstatement, and not a good message to put out there ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #52

18% failure rate per year, OK, that's not totally unreliable, its just the most unreliable of all progree Oct 2014 #63

That's a surprising figure marym625 Oct 2014 #22

Condoms protect against STDs, too ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #53

yeah, I lived through that aids pandemic marym625 Oct 2014 #61

Are there options beyond condoms and vasectomy? IronLionZion Oct 2014 #25

see post #21 marym625 Oct 2014 #26

I suspect that once such an option is available for men hifiguy Oct 2014 #37

I hope you're right marym625 Oct 2014 #44

I wish there were more options for men IronLionZion Oct 2014 #64

They have marym625 Oct 2014 #66

Since no form of birth control was 100% awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #69

I am sorry she had to go through that marym625 Oct 2014 #70

Well, they caught a problem in time... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #71

That's so sweet marym625 Oct 2014 #72

here is the youngest awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #73

OMG! marym625 Oct 2014 #74

no problem awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #75

My niece had a baby at 16. When she left the hospital NO ONE DISCUSSED Heather MC Oct 2014 #13

I'm surprised - I thought the ACA makes contraception free -- any kind of contraception, even the progree Oct 2014 #18

A few years of ACA are not going to undo... Orsino Oct 2014 #50

I think the vast majority of women by now understand, and want reliable birth control progree Oct 2014 #51

Time has already told. Orsino Oct 2014 #54

I'm sorry, but the unwanted pregnancy rate has little to do with religion progree Oct 2014 #55

American prudery in the guise of religion... Orsino Oct 2014 #58

Not all prudery is religious -- I know religious people that are anything but prudes, progree Oct 2014 #60

Right. I think what we're really talking about is male supremacy. Orsino Oct 2014 #62

That is being responsible. Kath1 Oct 2014 #20

GOOD FOR YOU! marym625 Oct 2014 #23

I'm surprised that more don't. Kath1 Oct 2014 #30

Good for you! marym625 Oct 2014 #31

Good! Kath1 Oct 2014 #35

Cearly, you are a sensible, rational person. hifiguy Oct 2014 #38

Thank you! Kath1 Oct 2014 #40

Great. applegrove Oct 2014 #49

My god, what state did she live in? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #56

Virginia Heather MC Oct 2014 #65

What we practiced back in my day didn't work madokie Oct 2014 #24

yes eastonb Oct 2014 #57

We have 7 billion people on this failing planet Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #67

Dramatic dot video of population growth. A world map beginning in 1 A.D. with 1 dot = 1 million progree Oct 2014 #76

On paper that sounds good tabbycat31 Oct 2014 #68