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In reply to the discussion: Observed 'White Guilt' [View all]
 

1StrongBlackMan

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32. Here's a Thought Exercise ...
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 07:24 AM
Oct 2014

Imagine you joined that same reading group. Upon joining you are introduced to the members. Being the smart and quick study that you are, you commit the names to memory and as the respectful person that you are, one use the member's name, whenever you address them.

One of the members is introduced to you by the name of "Piggy."

During the gathering, one of the member who was introduced to you as "Piggy", makes a particularly insightful and cogent point, which you acknowledge. Then, he/she makes another, then another, point that you find to be spot on ... clearly, "Piggy" is one of the brighter, more insightful people in the room

After the event, while having coffee you strike up a conversation with "Piggy" ... and find that he/she really enjoys the intellectual stimulation that the reading group offers; but he/she confides that she/he is deeply hurt by people calling her/him "Piggy", and that he/she prefers her/his given name, Bobby/Bobbie.

In subsequent meetings, people continue referring to her/him as "Piggy" ... but you, with the knowledge that that name is offensive to him/her, refrain and refer to "Piggy" as Bobbie/Bobby.

Now ... you have two choices: you can raise the issue, expressing to the larger group that she/he is offended by the name; or, you can remain silent and allow the practice to continue ... after all, you had/have nothing to do with Bobby/Bobbie being over weight, nor did you have anything to do with the group's using that name.

Now ... to address the OP ... If you choose the first option, you would be like the "Observed white guilt" woman ... she recognizes a phenomena and communicates that observation to the larger group ... whether the group accepts or even acknowledges the phenomena, or not. On the other hand, if you choose to remain silent (even as you personally refrain from engaging in the conduct), you cannot say that your silence does not perpetuate the status quo (i.e., the continuing use of the hurtful name).

Also, the "white guilt" that the right likes to talk about is the mere mention of, but more particularly, any actions by white people to address racism.

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Observed 'White Guilt' [View all] RadicalGeek Oct 2014 OP
"She has done this before" - "this"? Express an understanding Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #1
Agreed, Guilt is a mechanism of reality and part of awareness . And orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #26
Well put! eom. 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #27
I don't believe in white guilt, I believe.... JaneyVee Oct 2014 #2
That is What I Took From The Article Too RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #4
So, NOLALady Oct 2014 #3
White privilege ... GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #5
All of us who are caucasians in the United States acquire MineralMan Oct 2014 #6
Yeah, you're missing quite a lot brush Oct 2014 #7
As I Said RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #8
Guilt doesn't always imply choice. cyberswede Oct 2014 #13
OK RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #15
Yes. Iggo Oct 2014 #9
but you can certainly be aware of how being white improves your prospects in many ways La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #10
--THAT-- was a question I did ask RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #16
i think what you call white guilt is what i call white people who acknowledge their privilege La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #25
Recognizing the privilege of being white in this sufrommich Oct 2014 #11
So you acknowledge white privilege RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #12
you are responding defensively Enrique Oct 2014 #14
Actually It Was RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #17
Great Observation ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #33
How is this an example of her feeling guilt? gollygee Oct 2014 #18
You are not alone, my friend, by any means. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #19
Ever been pulled over for 'driving while white'? Rex Oct 2014 #20
You don't have the correct answers to your own questions, unfortunately. kwassa Oct 2014 #24
You, too? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #34
He puts people on ignore that he can't answer. kwassa Oct 2014 #38
+1 No guilt here either. badtoworse Oct 2014 #30
It exists. LostInAnomie Oct 2014 #21
Exactly--sorta RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #22
The "actions" ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #36
Part of Me RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #23
From your story, it looks like she made an observation and expressed no guilt. Brickbat Oct 2014 #28
Perhaps RadicalGeek Oct 2014 #29
This is a pretty good article TBF Oct 2014 #31
Here's a Thought Exercise ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #32
Obviously whites have benefitted from discrimination against blacks. Vattel Oct 2014 #35
ALL whites? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #40
I agree with you--not every white. But less opportunity for blacks does translate Vattel Oct 2014 #42
What I'm taking away from this gollygee Oct 2014 #37
I don't know which is worse ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #39
yup. La Lioness Priyanka Oct 2014 #43
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #44
I'm conflicted about this. lumberjack_jeff Oct 2014 #41
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