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AngryAmish

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22. Notice that the AD assumes that students should go to football games?

Mon Oct 6, 2014, 11:19 AM

Oct 2014

Like it is his god given right to a full stadium. Well, pal, make it more attractive and they might come. Make it cheaper, treat students with a shred of dignity or maybe fewer people really care about football. I was a devoted football fan. Now, meh. My son is not gonna play. I didn't watch the second half of the Bear's game yesterday.

Football will eventually become a club sport, albeit a big one. It has no place in higher education. Why would I want my kid living in the same dorms as these huge, violent men? Why would I want my kid to participate in a sport where every participant gets head injuries? Why should we subsidize giant salaries of coaches?

I know why it is done - football and men's basketball fund the other sports. Everyone gets a paycheck when football and men's basketball do well. So the entire institutional structure depends on these sports. But it is rotten.

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As football dies: "Michigan St. AD upset by student section" [View all] AngryAmish Oct 2014 OP

Give the seats to alumni. kwassa Oct 2014 #1

Time to change over to soccer. nt CK_John Oct 2014 #2

Then attendance would drop 90% Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #16

Only 90? former9thward Oct 2014 #23

I don't know. I really do think soccer is catching on in some places (finally). Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #53

Worst choice ever! yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #25

They have a soccer team. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #70

LOL. TransitJohn Oct 2014 #102

There's a wide variety of factors going into the lagging attendance from students. Brickbat Oct 2014 #3

Like the 3 high school football players killed in games last week. nt CK_John Oct 2014 #5

Having been a college student, I doubt that really has much to do with it. Brickbat Oct 2014 #6

The cost of even a student ticket is ridiculous, and these are students... ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #4

Student back in the 60's got free tickets (part of tuition) but were put in a student section. CK_John Oct 2014 #7

I really do believe student tickets should be free. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #13

Back in the '70s, season tickets for students were $20-$25 and were in the student section, amandabeech Oct 2014 #14

They still should be free yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #28

Most schools and conferences have melm00se Oct 2014 #55

Such a shame! yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #57

tailgating is allowed at most college stadiums melm00se Oct 2014 #74

What's the point then? smirkymonkey Oct 2014 #93

What's so dumb about it? Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #97

Majority at the game are over 21 years old yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #99

Universities are trying to discourage underage drinking Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #100

Thang God Florida State isn't yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #101

Alcohol free means it isn't sold in the stadium. goldent Oct 2014 #103

Yep. At U of F in the 60s free. Lottery for best seats. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #45

That's what I was going to say gopiscrap Oct 2014 #104

Not really, at most schools joeglow3 Oct 2014 #9

Really, at Michigan State ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #11

Someone lied to you joeglow3 Oct 2014 #17

Apples and oranges... SidDithers Oct 2014 #29

I stand corrected joeglow3 Oct 2014 #39

Student season tickets are $175, not $400. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #54

. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #30

What college kid pays to park? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #40

Do you see the cost of bus passes? ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #46

The campus is not that big. If you can get to class you can get to the game. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #56

I don't buy it is too expensive joeglow3 Oct 2014 #78

Sorry, but I disagree SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2014 #108

You are just proving yourself wrong. Season passes for students are $175. DesMoinesDem Oct 2014 #47

If I remember tuition was 93 a term full time from 60-64 at MSU. CK_John Oct 2014 #27

My daughter's BFF was going to change her major, and then realized how much she had sunk into ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #32

It's been a while since I've been back to E Lansing, maybe next yr. CK_John Oct 2014 #33

I love that campus. A cousin of mine lives in the 'burbs by the college. ScreamingMeemie Oct 2014 #34

I think she made the right decision! yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #85

My daughter is a student there now .... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #58

Would that football loses it's place everywhere. GoneOffShore Oct 2014 #8

For a second I thought you were referring to the Coliseum in L.A. where USC plays. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #38

LOL! The culture wars open a new venue. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #48

Maybe the young people of today are losing interest in a violent and (for me) logosoco Oct 2014 #10

Not likely Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #19

Interesting... logosoco Oct 2014 #43

That's U of M maryellen99 Oct 2014 #66

This is Michigan State KamaAina Oct 2014 #81

Or maybe Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #90

Well my instructions to my daughter was to exboyfil Oct 2014 #12

You're right. In most schools, the have higher attendance rates and higher graduation rates joeglow3 Oct 2014 #15

It is how the administration responds when they get into exboyfil Oct 2014 #18

And? Anecdotes excuse indicting an entire population of people? joeglow3 Oct 2014 #21

Indicting whole populations. Culture war is like that. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #49

Your article brought up exboyfil Oct 2014 #73

That still doesn't explain how you indict based on anecdotes. joeglow3 Oct 2014 #80

Not at all exboyfil Oct 2014 #86

The frequency of those appears to be in line with the national average joeglow3 Oct 2014 #91

Uh, it was rainy and really f'n cold. Dawgs Oct 2014 #20

Notice that the AD assumes that students should go to football games? AngryAmish Oct 2014 #22

College football has maybe another decade to the end Bragi Oct 2014 #24

I wonder what will take it's place AngryAmish Oct 2014 #26

If football goes so will a lot of other sports yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #31

The challenge will be all about $ Bragi Oct 2014 #35

I wonder if Princeton and other universities will be around in 5yr, not sports. CK_John Oct 2014 #36

Don't be daft. Seriously. You really believe this balderdash? WinkyDink Oct 2014 #62

You want a sport that won't damage their brains Bragi Oct 2014 #41

Been hearing THAT since the 60s. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #50

The science on brain injuries has improved Bragi Oct 2014 #64

They probably won't ignore the science. And continue to play. Eleanors38 Oct 2014 #92

OMG, this is about the dumbest prediction I've ever read! Get a clue and watch Saturday TV! WinkyDink Oct 2014 #61

The science on brain injury has changed Bragi Oct 2014 #67

I let my kids play it joeglow3 Oct 2014 #82

Won't go away in our lifetimes IMO goldent Oct 2014 #107

Fine with me. I had no interest in football in college. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #37

I didn't, either. WhiteAndNerdy Oct 2014 #98

A point worth reposting in this discussion: hatrack Oct 2014 #42

"football dies"? - hahahaha - Michigan sucks! Baclava Oct 2014 #44

+1 Go Vols Oct 2014 #79

Reduce the student section of the stadiums liberal N proud Oct 2014 #51

As my daughter (a current MSU student) says: etherealtruth Oct 2014 #52

When In College RobinA Oct 2014 #59

Your description of an afternoon of college football sounds just like mine, and I went to a football amandabeech Oct 2014 #95

"Plus, football is losing it's place on campus." NOT! "Colleges and Universities Continue Adding WinkyDink Oct 2014 #60

College Football is not dying. dilby Oct 2014 #63

How long can the brain damage be ignored? Bragi Oct 2014 #68

It's not, just like the NFL colleges are making changes to make the sport safer. dilby Oct 2014 #72

Not much has changed Bragi Oct 2014 #75

No, that would be hitting a defenseless player and leading with your helmet. dilby Oct 2014 #76

I doubt serious brain damage will be avoided Bragi Oct 2014 #77

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #69

You make things up and don't post pertinent facts: "Hollis said more than 13,000 students bought WinkyDink Oct 2014 #65

+1 uponit7771 Oct 2014 #71

No WiFi at football games? Seriously? Initech Oct 2014 #83

Yes ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #89

Football is dying? Go Vols Oct 2014 #84

Translation: Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #87

"Student sections" have been a "cool kids" clique for a long time ProudToBeBlueInRhody Oct 2014 #88

Why go to an expensive seat when you can watch it on tv? roamer65 Oct 2014 #94

Not enough GOTV? Scuba Oct 2014 #96

The empty seats are clearly visible ... JEFF9K Oct 2014 #105

In five years they'll be nostalgic for these kids BeyondGeography Oct 2014 #106

The brain trust at the University of Minnesota came up with a scheme to bolster attendence at dflprincess Oct 2014 #109