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JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
35. I understand what it means.
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 11:57 AM
Oct 2014

If Hillary really had a clear vision of what she wanted to change in America, DU would be talking about it because she would be taking about it.

And this is part (ONLY PART) of what is wrong with the idea of a Hillary candidacy.

Hillary's potential candidacy is about Hillary.

It is not about the change that she believes very deeply, so deeply to the point she cannot stop from talking about it, that we need in America.

Elizabeth Warren doesn't stop talking about the changes she sees that America needs. Bernie Sanders is on the radio nearly every week and talking to people every chance he gets about very specific changes like changes to our federal campaign finance and wages and all the other things he talks about. Both Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders speak of the changes we need with deep conviction, eloquence, humility and you can feel their emotions and their spirits are intent on accomplishing the changes they see we need.

Not so with Hillary. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are driven by their desires to boost the middle class. They are bursting with enthusiasm for the task.

Hillary --- what is she going to do? Change student loan law? Unsign the Telecommunications Bill that her husband signed? Reinstate welfare for those hard times when we have high unemployment? She talks vaguely about welfare reform, but what would she do about it? Would she reinstate food stamp money? Would she put Wall Street magnates in jail if their companies violate the law? Would she lower interest on student loans? Campaign for more money for higher education? Try to find ways to cut the cost of federal law enforcement and prisons?

What does Hillary stand for? And does she really believe in changing America? What causes will she fight for? Does she really care at all? So far in my view she does not begin to measure up in terms of dedication and depth to the likes of Elizabeth Warren who spent years doing careful research into the economic challenges to the middle class or to the likes of Bernie Sanders who attracts many conservative voters with his common sense determination and dedication to helping middle class Americans.

I see Hillary as a candidate with a head start because of name recognition but also a big problem because of NAFTA and the Telecommunications Act and a number of other bills and programs and of course personal problems, all baggage from Bill Clinton's presidency.

I do not think Hillary would make nearly as good a candidate as either Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Hillary is past her political prime. They are all about the same age, but Hillary cannot muster the enthusiasm and cannot communicate the courage and faith that Elizabeth Warren and/or Bernie Sanders do.

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I'm not wealthy, but fully agree that Warren, Sanders and others would be much better choices. Scuba Oct 2014 #1
Me too. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #5
Amen.... daleanime Oct 2014 #7
Same here. Shadowflash Oct 2014 #19
Absolutely n/t MissDeeds Oct 2014 #24
Caveat lector, when it's Politico. Nonetheless, I fully agree RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #26
I fully agree. SammyWinstonJack Oct 2014 #55
im glad these people exist. roguevalley Oct 2014 #65
Looks interesting...Will read whole article later. KoKo Oct 2014 #2
so i would already be considered a Rogue dem? i am ok with that dembotoz Oct 2014 #3
Personally, I like the label: "Rogue Dem." It sounds rather dashing! LongTomH Oct 2014 #74
Bill and Hillary, while doing many great things, sold us out to Wall Street, why should I support Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #4
Here's what the article has to say about Bernie/campaign finance reform. Divernan Oct 2014 #18
I couldn't agree more! If people really want to fix government and solve most of the pressing Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #48
HRC is damaged goods Android3.14 Oct 2014 #6
SO very very damaged - more luggage than a filled 747 luggage compartment. Divernan Oct 2014 #14
So our rogue donors are better than their rogue donors.... Historic NY Oct 2014 #8
If you read the article you see that many of these donors are not happy about the 'money in sabrina 1 Oct 2014 #73
I'll begrudgingly vote for HRC in the election RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #9
Hillary would be a win for the wealthy folk so this surprises me. peace13 Oct 2014 #12
"Can't even say if she's running." Here's a list of who's declared so far: rock Oct 2014 #10
Wish I could individually rec this comment EileenFB Oct 2014 #15
me too mopinko Oct 2014 #31
Welcome to DU, EileenFB! calimary Oct 2014 #53
Thank you calimary EileenFB Oct 2014 #71
I am so glad you spoke up. If you have a point it must be that HRC shouldn't be expected to do rhett o rick Oct 2014 #61
Don't you understand our language or culture? rock Oct 2014 #66
Did you not understand that you made a statement that had nothing to do with the rhett o rick Oct 2014 #69
Very clever rock Oct 2014 #70
You "took a direct quote (single point)" and tried to be cute and insinuate that rhett o rick Oct 2014 #72
Interesting that people looking for big D democratic candidates are labeled Rogue hootinholler Oct 2014 #11
Thank you. So true. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #36
Well said "hootin" nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #62
Why is it rogue to be looking at other putative nominees than HRC? marble falls Oct 2014 #13
You know what I miss? Proud Public Servant Oct 2014 #16
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ mopinko Oct 2014 #32
Maybe because a well-organized labor movement actually existed back then? YoungDemCA Oct 2014 #37
Great post. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #38
Thank you. I’m tired of the leadership being so cowed by the right-wing establishment that they are Chathamization Oct 2014 #45
Hear hear. Barack_America Oct 2014 #50
Webb is not progressive - TBF Oct 2014 #17
He isn't even interesting. Somebody posted a video of him. I got the impression he is a hack JDPriestly Oct 2014 #39
Someone even called him a populist! KamaAina Oct 2014 #57
Who is going to represent working class families after next crash? It won't be Hillary. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #20
Clinton Foundation will host a 5 star international conference on the problem Divernan Oct 2014 #22
+1 whereisjustice Oct 2014 #25
Is that a way to indebt celebrities to them so that the celebrities will feel compelled JDPriestly Oct 2014 #40
The more the merrier. jen63 Oct 2014 #21
Sherrod Brown is a great liberal, but he does not have the charisma in front of a group that JDPriestly Oct 2014 #42
I disagree. n/t jen63 Oct 2014 #46
Okay, that's about the STUPIDEST anti-Hillary argument I ever read. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #23
i hate that whole meme. mopinko Oct 2014 #33
I understand what it means. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #35
Reminds me of this. AtomicKitten Oct 2014 #44
It's Divide and Conquer POLITICO stirring the pot, as they do. MADem Oct 2014 #52
Thank you! AndreaCG Oct 2014 #56
If you are down to using the word "stupid" twice in your argument, I sense a certain rhett o rick Oct 2014 #64
If HRC is our candidate byoung6 Oct 2014 #27
No may about it in my case, no more lesser of two evils for me. A Simple Game Oct 2014 #41
I can already hear it,.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #28
Right on cue post #29. Nice call! neverforget Oct 2014 #67
Wow, 7 minutes later. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #68
Papa Paul and little Bambino ,,, loves it! Cryptoad Oct 2014 #29
good for them stupidicus Oct 2014 #30
Gives me hope! Thanks for posting! JDPriestly Oct 2014 #34
Donors Robbins Oct 2014 #43
these folks might be wealthy DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #47
K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2014 #49
One word--POLITICO. MADem Oct 2014 #51
+1 Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #60
Hey, whoever thinks they have what it takes, put it on the table. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #54
Why would donors, wealthy or otherwise, be ready if she hasn't announced her intentions? Tarheel_Dem Oct 2014 #58
That's a fair question to all the donors to Ready for Hillary PAC. Divernan Oct 2014 #59
It's Definitely a Good Read...Recommend it to All! KoKo Oct 2014 #63
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