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Silent3

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30. Please do point to the place in the OP article where it says...
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 12:05 PM
Oct 2014

"that it is not so bad" for us to, as you put it, focus paranoia on a group.

The fact that you're still talking about "commit violent acts" tells me that the only thing you can imagine people having a problem with when they criticize Islam is fear of being a victim of a violent act.

Plenty of personally non-violent Muslims who would never be a risk to anyone on an airplane are still, nevertheless, extremely homophobic. Many non-violent Muslims expect women to wear veils and won't let them drive a car. Plenty of non-violent Muslims don't support secular government, but would rather impose religious law via government power. Many (sizable majorities in Epypt and Afghanistan, for example) support the death penalty for any Muslim trying to leave the Islamic faith.

Are there a few liberal Muslims out there who are great supporters of equality and democracy? Sure, of course there are. And I'll never support discriminatory policies that don't allow for evaluation of all people as individuals, based on their personal merits, rather than blanket treatment based on some group label like race or religion.

The overall influence of Islam and current Islamic culture, however, is antithetical to liberal democratic values, and should be called out as such, without every such criticism being responded to by a knee-jerk reaction that someone is instead telling you to be afraid of every Muslim on an airplane.

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The West's phobia of Islamophobia [View all] echochamberlain Oct 2014 OP
It's tricky, that's why. Bigotry against Muslims is very real. cali Oct 2014 #1
Agreed. This smacks of attempts to smear those who point out bonofide islamaphobia GoneFishin Oct 2014 #2
Or it's confusion that all criticism of Islam is exactly the same thing... Silent3 Oct 2014 #4
Totally true. If I hear of two people wearing christian crosses around their necks on a plane GoneFishin Oct 2014 #10
Did Bill Maher advocate panicking ever time you see Muslim passengers on a plane? Silent3 Oct 2014 #24
Wrong. I indicated that I would be disgusted if Christians were assumed to be trying to trigger the GoneFishin Oct 2014 #27
Please do point to the place in the OP article where it says... Silent3 Oct 2014 #30
Sure : "Much of the West now has an irrational phobia of Islamaphobia." GoneFishin Oct 2014 #35
+2 pinboy3niner Oct 2014 #3
thank you. you're one of the people here whose opinion I value. cali Oct 2014 #5
Because liberal and tolerant Christians are constantly on the line here on DU. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #16
So you are saying the Republicans have always been correct, to be critical of bigotry is intolerant Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #6
So you feel that all Muslims are responsible for the actions of Isis el_bryanto Oct 2014 #7
Is that what I said? I am a human being, I speak for myself and I do not need you to rewrite me Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #8
OK - I think it's wrong to condemn all members of Islam for the actions of a few el_bryanto Oct 2014 #9
I think it is wrong to put words into the mouths of others. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #11
You really should take some reading comprehension classes. el_bryanto Oct 2014 #12
You are taking issue with your own inferences. This can not be helped. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #15
I am not being dishonest, but I can see that arguing with you is a waste of time. el_bryanto Oct 2014 #26
You do not speak for me. I have not said nor do I believe any of the shit that you are typing. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #31
Playing the devils advocate, the child abuse case in Rotherham UK riderinthestorm Oct 2014 #23
To be honest with you madokie Oct 2014 #13
"Much of the West now has an irrational phobia of Islamaphobia." ??? Sheldon Cooper Oct 2014 #14
10, maybe 20 years? Donald Ian Rankin Oct 2014 #29
Interesting drive-by Orrex Oct 2014 #17
Yep. marmar Oct 2014 #18
no doubt GummyBearz Oct 2014 #19
As I've noted before, Maher is a stopped asshole who shits right twice a day Orrex Oct 2014 #21
Great argument. GummyBearz Oct 2014 #22
Eat a lot of cheese, and you'll find out Orrex Oct 2014 #25
Bill Maher and Sam Harris were huge cheerleaders for Israel's slaughter in the Gaza Strip. cpwm17 Oct 2014 #20
Here's some solid information hifiguy Oct 2014 #28
Is apostasy a state crime in any other religion? EX500rider Oct 2014 #32
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #33
It's too early in the morning for this kind of phony macho bullshit. arcane1 Oct 2014 #34
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