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bettyellen

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13. you missed the part on how traumatic + confusing it is for the patient also- it is a horrible thing
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 01:42 PM
Oct 2014

for them to experience. It is painful to the survivors to witness loved ones in pain- it is not selfish to want to help them- as you seem to be implying.

The patients know they are losing their identity, and are very frightened by the people and places that should be comforting suddenly become very scary and unfamiliar. For a very long time they struggle greatly to retain what they can of their selves, and it is petrifying. It is not "cute" or romantic like it is in movies like The Notebook, nor is it any kind of "relief" to the patients to lose their former selves. Those notions are ridiculous, and harmful.

Alzheimer's sufferers have horrible fits of fear and confusion you would not wish on anyone. Parkinson's related dementia as well as AD results in a loss of "muscle memory" as well, where the most basic physical functions - from walking to digestion degrade sharply because the body doesn't know how anymore. If you think this is more about the family, you are sadly mistaken. The big reason family is involved in these cases is because their loved ones cannot advocate for themselves, so their families must. It is a role thrust on them by these horrible diseases, and your attempts to characterize their motivation as self interest is totally ignorant and well as cruel.

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Very interesting. Trillo Oct 2014 #1
Are you discounting this publicaton? Avalux Oct 2014 #2
No, I don't think so, but maybe so. My view is more philosophical and political than technical. Trillo Oct 2014 #4
Oh I understand what you're saying now. Avalux Oct 2014 #5
Start a blog. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #10
Spend money---to keep one's mind! I should say that would be money well-spent! WinkyDink Oct 2014 #3
I'm not sure that's "always" the case. Trillo Oct 2014 #6
as one who watched two parents loose their minds- you seem to have no clue how horrible it is. bettyellen Oct 2014 #7
I think you hit an important point. "love" Trillo Oct 2014 #9
you missed the part on how traumatic + confusing it is for the patient also- it is a horrible thing bettyellen Oct 2014 #13
No, it is not cruel to possess an opposing opinion. Trillo Oct 2014 #15
I truly feel sorry for whatever caused this sad POV that goes to abuse and pain- and thinks bettyellen Oct 2014 #16
Please answer the question Trillo Oct 2014 #18
Silly. Surgery is nothing like day to day living. No, it is NOT a great kindness to allow someone's bettyellen Oct 2014 #21
Ah, you had a moment of brilliance, Trillo Oct 2014 #23
That is some nasty twisted interpretation of what I said. Perhaps someday you will actually KNOW bettyellen Oct 2014 #24
Try reading the linked article, okay? Because your "traumas" remark is out of an orifice. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #8
I did. And not "an orifice", from my fingers typing on a keyboard. Trillo Oct 2014 #11
I get what you are saying RobertEarl Oct 2014 #19
Alzheimers disease is anything BUT blissful. Most people, including the person you are responding bettyellen Oct 2014 #25
Don't blame any of us RobertEarl Oct 2014 #26
the poster I responded to is quite clearly taking swipes at family member for trying to help their bettyellen Oct 2014 #27
The idea family members are often selfish is apparently resonant to you. Trillo Oct 2014 #29
that you completely ignore the suffering of those afflicted is disgusting-just repulsive. bettyellen Oct 2014 #30
You're projecting. NT Trillo Oct 2014 #31
you are so completely ignorant on what Alzheimer's patients go through, I am embarrassed for you... bettyellen Oct 2014 #33
Like patients who cannot speak are assumed better off? littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #34
there are a lot of rationalizations people employ to neglect loved ones when they hit a bad patch bettyellen Oct 2014 #36
An let us not forget the narcissist. littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #38
You're the one who wrote, "they would pay anything to do so." Trillo Oct 2014 #37
After years in the medical field I can tell you "death by dementia" littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #39
yep, most people are ignorant of the torture people suffering from dementia endure. In the media bettyellen Oct 2014 #40
It's my understanding that pneumonia is one of the leading causes of death. Trillo Oct 2014 #45
Alzheimer's disease is not a "natural againg process" it is a horrible disease that destroys healthy bettyellen Oct 2014 #41
I'm tired of your personal insults. Trillo Oct 2014 #43
calling these diseases "part of a natural aging process" is complete bullshit bettyellen Oct 2014 #44
The medical industrial complex has been accused of inventing diseases for quite some time. Trillo Oct 2014 #46
Yeah, and that has nothing to do with Alzheimers or any of your pet issues. bettyellen Oct 2014 #47
Nobody wants Alzheimers, whether or not they're working. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #20
now its a "natural aging process" that should be ignored. bettyellen Oct 2014 #42
Looking at Table 1 in the doc: the non-supplement stuff is probably doing the bulk of the benefit. politicat Oct 2014 #12
That explains a great deal in my life. . . Paula Sims Oct 2014 #14
i would recommend a geriatric psychiatrist for Mom to check her out- bettyellen Oct 2014 #17
Thank you for posting this! pnwmom Oct 2014 #22
Bookmarking. One person here seems to have no ability to grasp the severity of impact ... Hekate Oct 2014 #28
This person in study went from 4-5 hrs sleep per night to 7-8. Frankly, I think that was the part KittyWampus Oct 2014 #32
Agreed. nt littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #35
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