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87. Bachmann's district,...for one.

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Was Thomas Duncan Initially Turned Away From The Hospital Because He's Black And Uninsured? [View all] Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 OP

Seems to be a reasonable question to ask. calimary Oct 2014 #1

No. Agschmid Oct 2014 #2

Why are you so definitive in your answer? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #3

In my opinion if the hospital was acting in a racist manor... Agschmid Oct 2014 #6

What about lack of insurance? Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #7

Had the hospital been competent to know he had Ebola no one would care about his Agschmid Oct 2014 #9

It turns out the "communication failures" story Mariana Oct 2014 #93

It's my understanding that he told them he had been to Liberia... Agschmid Oct 2014 #94

+ 1000 !!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2014 #104

Have you ever been in an ER? YarnAddict Oct 2014 #60

He wasn't turned away or denied service. A hospital can't do that. But LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #68

I've wondered about this too jrussell466 Oct 2014 #98

Wile they may not have turned him away ... IggleDoer Oct 2014 #69

They do not turn those without insurance away... etherealtruth Oct 2014 #72

True, but that's not the problem. procon Oct 2014 #86

They aren't turned away... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #92

Right - and I have a bridge to sell you. PumpkinAle Oct 2014 #101

Texas is Rick Perry's fiefdom in the Koch Kingdom. That says it all. freshwest Oct 2014 #97

Maybe a mix of both: an automatic assumption about the man, made at an unconscious level, Voice for Peace Oct 2014 #15

Exactly my thought il_lilac Oct 2014 #89

"They would have quarantined him." greiner3 Oct 2014 #49

But if they'd known it was ebola, they'd have had no choice Orrex Oct 2014 #76

Yes quarantines cost money. Agschmid Oct 2014 #88

Being uninsured works like magic to keep you from being admitted Warpy Oct 2014 #20

I get it, it happens. Agschmid Oct 2014 #23

Damn ... Lurker Deluxe Oct 2014 #43

I took my brother into a mental health treatment facility last week upon the advice of his doctor Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #57

So ... Lurker Deluxe Oct 2014 #63

I guess I was not clear, he was told by his GP to check into a rehab/mental health hospital Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #80

Ben Taub is a public hospital momrois Oct 2014 #70

YES!! And they fucked up, too! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #54

And you're positive that race and insurance had nothing to do with that fuckup? RedCappedBandit Oct 2014 #58

I might be mistaken - didn't 840high Oct 2014 #102

K&R.... daleanime Oct 2014 #4

It was suggested last week and not many seemed to think so then. notadmblnd Oct 2014 #5

I went to the the Kaiser Permanente ER In Woodland Hills without insurance... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2014 #8

First Visit negoldie Oct 2014 #10

Volunteer/unpaid student interviewing a patient? What is your evidence that is happening? JDPriestly Oct 2014 #19

Excuse me? Obviously you've never attended any sort of medical school Warpy Oct 2014 #28

If urban Texas ERs turned away people because they're black Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #11

Race, possibly, no insurance I would say for sure. logosoco Oct 2014 #12

I have a surefire way for Duncan to have gotten treated like a King Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #13

I wonder why he didn't do that, once he was here. I could maybe understand him not saying logosoco Oct 2014 #18

+1 eom LittleGirl Oct 2014 #48

TWICE jrussell466 Oct 2014 #100

White America will only care when a 19 year old blonde girl gets it. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #14

It's all over the news, all day. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #16

Observation. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #22

Where is this White America you speak of, anyway? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #24

Bachmann's district,...for one. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #87

The answer is "yes." In France, he would have been treated no matter where he came from, JDPriestly Oct 2014 #17

And in France they'd have known he had Ebola right away Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #21

You mean that he was from Liberia? Oh wait, he told them that. uppityperson Oct 2014 #29

"Doctor, I'm sick." Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #30

He told them he was from Liberia, not sure what you are going on about. uppityperson Oct 2014 #31

It has been established that the hospital blew it. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #34

You mean something that is not a fact has not been established as a fact? Well, yes, that is true uppityperson Oct 2014 #37

"Gee, why do I feel so bad? All I did was expose myself to Ebola. THAT shouldn't matter." Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #41

The woman he helped, even her family, thought it was pregnancy related health problem uppityperson Oct 2014 #46

The job of the healthcare worker is to diagnose and treat disease. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #106

The same people who say he lied to get to the US and seek treatment also say he lied alcibiades_mystery Oct 2014 #36

Seriously. Why would anyone who thought they have ebola got to the ER then lie to not be uppityperson Oct 2014 #39

He did disclose to someone in the hospital. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #42

Agreed. And people who, you know, essentially HANDLED Ebola might offer that up Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #45

you act the hospital staff lives on Mars noiretextatique Oct 2014 #74

I've had that experience in France JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #38

It used to be good, those days are long gone jrussell466 Oct 2014 #99

Same issue as sick days for food service workers. We either care about our collective health ... Scuba Oct 2014 #25

And we should also encourage patently sick people who know what they have Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #27

First of all, he wasn't turned away. SheilaT Oct 2014 #26

they release uninsured in California also MattP Oct 2014 #32

if he was "turned away" how did he get the useless antibiotics? snooper2 Oct 2014 #33

I had gall stones 2 years ago. christx30 Oct 2014 #84

No - not race JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #35

Race and not having insurance are highly correlated. So, yes is my answer. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #55

Exactly how serious were his symptoms at the first examination? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #40

From what I have read, his fever was not h igh enough to meet criteria. BUT I also uppityperson Oct 2014 #61

The hospital was incompetent, but it stretches reality to assume that they would knowingly totodeinhere Oct 2014 #44

"You have flu or respiratory infection symptoms? We better check you in for advanced treatment!" Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #47

Thank you. nt B2G Oct 2014 #67

88 people and 125 people die from gun violence and lack of health insurance everyday respectively Farmbrook Oct 2014 #50

Possible. Until Repubs stop blocking access to care, such questions will be valid. riqster Oct 2014 #51

yep! juxtaposed Oct 2014 #52

Is a clock right at least once a day? :( Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #53

Are people on DU seriously arguing . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #56

No. But that's not what the OP is about. B2G Oct 2014 #66

Makes sense of the matter. Sienna86 Oct 2014 #59

He wasn't 'turned away' B2G Oct 2014 #62

I think many DUers have an overly cinematic way of looking at the world, alas. nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #73

Absolutely right Drayden Oct 2014 #91

One more question malaise Oct 2014 #64

That may have contributed...but I think it was a case of incompetence, and perhaps overwork. Avalux Oct 2014 #65

Wouldn't it suck if that were the case KamaAina Oct 2014 #71

Perry turns down obama care money what else can hospitals do to avoid bankruptcy jonjensen Oct 2014 #75

In the US? He's lucky he wasn't shot in the parking lot for "menacing" a cop, "He looked like high!" marble falls Oct 2014 #77

That's what I thought from the beginning... Sancho Oct 2014 #78

heard that in many areas ER staff see a lot of uninsured impoverished coming in for "everything" bettyellen Oct 2014 #79

Meanwhile, Rick Perry has his puss on the tube today pushing wonderful new public health plans. Vinca Oct 2014 #81

Would it have been different? ReRe Oct 2014 #82

I'll skip "Racism" and take "An uninsured non-citizen" for $200, Alex. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #83

That's what I said to hubby, they probably were not as thorough as they would have been woodsprite Oct 2014 #85

Duncan is a Liberian citizen Sopkoviak Oct 2014 #90

Chances are that he was sent home primarily because the ER doc wasn't looking for zebras. WillowTree Oct 2014 #95

He wasn't "turned away" because he was black. 7wo7rees Oct 2014 #96

Uninsured! Doesn't matter the race, uninsured gets you kicked out of the ER speedy. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #103

I completely suspect that was the case. onecaliberal Oct 2014 #105