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pnwmom

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Mon Oct 6, 2014, 05:59 PM Oct 2014

The Madrid hospital where the nurse got Ebola was specially chosen and prepared to handle Ebola. [View all]

And the nurse who got it only had 2 contacts with her patient.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/07/world/europe/spain-reports-first-case-of-ebola-contracted-outside-west-africa.html

The Carlos III hospital was specially selected and prepared to treat another Spanish priest who had been working in Africa and was the first European to be repatriated after being infected with Ebola. The priest, August Miguel Pajares, died on Aug. 12, five days after entering the special unit of the hospital.

Ms. Mato, the health minister, would not discuss how a staff member could have contracted Ebola while working in a hospital specially equipped to handle such a dangerous virus. “We are trying to determine whether all the health safety protocols have been followed,” she said.

Ms. Mato urged people to remain calm, adding that “all the possible measures” were being taken to guarantee public health safety.

Antonio Alemany, a health official from the regional government of Madrid, told the news conference that the nurse went on vacation a day after Father García Viejo died. She contacted a medical center on Sept. 30, after feeling feverish, but had been leading “a normal life” while on vacation, he added, without giving details about her whereabouts during that period.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/spanish-nurse-first-person-contract-ebola-outside-africa-n219581

A nurse in Spain has become the first person to contract Ebola outside of West Africa in the latest epidemic, authorities said on Monday.

The woman, who was described as a "sanitary tech," last month treated a priest in Madrid who later died of Ebola after contracting the virus while doing missionary work in Sierra Leone.

The elderly priest, Manuel Garcia Viejo, was treated in Madrid's Carlos III hospital, where he had been in quarantine since his return from Africa. He died on Sept. 25. The nurse entered the priest's room twice: Once to treat him and once upon his death, to recover his belongings, officials said. She began showing signs of illness on Sept. 30 and sought treatment, they said.

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Thirty health-care workers who came into contact with the nurse will now be under observation for 21 days, Spanish health officials said. They are also working to compile a list of people the unnamed nurse may have interacted with outside of the hospital.

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It's certainly puzzling... Avalux Oct 2014 #1
And both of their patients died too. JimDandy Oct 2014 #2
their patients were both very old and probably very advanced disease state magical thyme Oct 2014 #43
What exactly is a sanitary tech and what treatment would such a tech provide? Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #3
The second article says: pnwmom Oct 2014 #4
I read that. I asked what sort of treatment a sanitary tech would provide because that detail is Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #7
Why is the label more important than what she actually did? pnwmom Oct 2014 #8
It is not more important, I also asked what she actually did. The 'label' or job title, becomes the Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #9
Exactly,,, dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #10
Here's a job description for HEALTH CARE SANITARY TECHNICIAN PADemD Oct 2014 #11
So no direct patient contact? riverwalker Oct 2014 #17
No, not Spanish site. Found the description on line through a job title search. PADemD Oct 2014 #25
sounds like a nursing assistant in US riverwalker Oct 2014 #36
"to assist him" sounds like contact. morningfog Oct 2014 #39
Most likely, she broke protocol. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #5
Most likely, the protocol is much, much harder to follow than people think. pnwmom Oct 2014 #6
There's no room for error with Ebola. it only takes a single virus particle to infect and kill. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #12
And they follow protocol so well in Dallas. LisaL Oct 2014 #13
Not really MohRokTah Oct 2014 #14
Not really? LisaL Oct 2014 #15
She failed to follow protocols and got fluid in her eyes, nose, mouth, or open wound. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #16
No one knows that she deliberately failed to follow protocols. Even her hospital is saying pnwmom Oct 2014 #19
Nobody said she deliberately failed to follow protocols. That she failed to follow protocols... MohRokTah Oct 2014 #24
Or maybe she followed the protocol perfectly and there was a tiny hole in her glove pnwmom Oct 2014 #26
Lisa don't you love all the Ebola experts on here. woolldog Oct 2014 #49
Open wound on your hand while TBF Oct 2014 #18
What about the NBC cameraman? cwydro Oct 2014 #29
He washed a car in which somebody died from Ebola. LisaL Oct 2014 #31
He did have direct contact with somebody's bodily fluids. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #32
he had splashback while helping to disinfect the car magical thyme Oct 2014 #44
Given most people are symptomatic 8-10 days from infection, Barack_America Oct 2014 #20
This is what I'm afraid of. It's not that people are deliberately being lax on the precautions, pnwmom Oct 2014 #21
Gowning and ungowning should be witnessed. Barack_America Oct 2014 #22
That would help. I wonder if that's standard. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #23
Perhaps ebola is no longer as "difficult" to catch as researchers ecstatic Oct 2014 #27
The structure of Ebola simply does not allow for that sort of a mutation. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #34
We still don't know how the cameraman got it either. cwydro Oct 2014 #28
He thinks he got it when he washed an infected car. LisaL Oct 2014 #30
Which was washed how long after the person died? XemaSab Oct 2014 #37
But fluids on surfaces can stay infected with a virus, and it's not clear for how long. LisaL Oct 2014 #41
I found this. pnwmom Oct 2014 #48
The virus can remain alive on surfaces at room temperature for days. pnwmom Oct 2014 #47
Washed a CAR? cwydro Oct 2014 #38
Coming to a hospital near you? Or me? LisaL Oct 2014 #40
Possibly. If the vomit was not bone dry when he started spraying it, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #42
they used "extreme" precautions riverwalker Oct 2014 #33
Well, that's discouraging. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #35
Yeah, but it's probably in the downstream chain of decontamination. Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #45
That article says she had fever beginning on the 30th??? Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #46
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