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Avalux

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1. It's certainly puzzling...

Mon Oct 6, 2014, 05:03 PM

Oct 2014

Ebola is a very messy disease in its end stage; the missionary died, so we know he was not in control of his body fluids, and they were probably everywhere. People had to take care of his body around that time, and then clean up. The article states the nurse was in contact with the missionary's body after he died. Very messy.

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The Madrid hospital where the nurse got Ebola was specially chosen and prepared to handle Ebola. [View all] pnwmom Oct 2014 OP

It's certainly puzzling... Avalux Oct 2014 #1

And both of their patients died too. JimDandy Oct 2014 #2

their patients were both very old and probably very advanced disease state magical thyme Oct 2014 #43

What exactly is a sanitary tech and what treatment would such a tech provide? Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #3

The second article says: pnwmom Oct 2014 #4

I read that. I asked what sort of treatment a sanitary tech would provide because that detail is Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #7

Why is the label more important than what she actually did? pnwmom Oct 2014 #8

It is not more important, I also asked what she actually did. The 'label' or job title, becomes the Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #9

Exactly,,, dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #10

Here's a job description for HEALTH CARE SANITARY TECHNICIAN PADemD Oct 2014 #11

So no direct patient contact? riverwalker Oct 2014 #17

No, not Spanish site. Found the description on line through a job title search. PADemD Oct 2014 #25

sounds like a nursing assistant in US riverwalker Oct 2014 #36

"to assist him" sounds like contact. morningfog Oct 2014 #39

Most likely, she broke protocol. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #5

Most likely, the protocol is much, much harder to follow than people think. pnwmom Oct 2014 #6

There's no room for error with Ebola. it only takes a single virus particle to infect and kill. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #12

And they follow protocol so well in Dallas. LisaL Oct 2014 #13

Not really MohRokTah Oct 2014 #14

Not really? LisaL Oct 2014 #15

She failed to follow protocols and got fluid in her eyes, nose, mouth, or open wound. eom MohRokTah Oct 2014 #16

No one knows that she deliberately failed to follow protocols. Even her hospital is saying pnwmom Oct 2014 #19

Nobody said she deliberately failed to follow protocols. That she failed to follow protocols... MohRokTah Oct 2014 #24

Or maybe she followed the protocol perfectly and there was a tiny hole in her glove pnwmom Oct 2014 #26

Lisa don't you love all the Ebola experts on here. woolldog Oct 2014 #49

Open wound on your hand while TBF Oct 2014 #18

What about the NBC cameraman? cwydro Oct 2014 #29

He washed a car in which somebody died from Ebola. LisaL Oct 2014 #31

He did have direct contact with somebody's bodily fluids. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #32

he had splashback while helping to disinfect the car magical thyme Oct 2014 #44

Given most people are symptomatic 8-10 days from infection, Barack_America Oct 2014 #20

This is what I'm afraid of. It's not that people are deliberately being lax on the precautions, pnwmom Oct 2014 #21

Gowning and ungowning should be witnessed. Barack_America Oct 2014 #22

That would help. I wonder if that's standard. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #23

Perhaps ebola is no longer as "difficult" to catch as researchers ecstatic Oct 2014 #27

The structure of Ebola simply does not allow for that sort of a mutation. MohRokTah Oct 2014 #34

We still don't know how the cameraman got it either. cwydro Oct 2014 #28

He thinks he got it when he washed an infected car. LisaL Oct 2014 #30

Which was washed how long after the person died? XemaSab Oct 2014 #37

But fluids on surfaces can stay infected with a virus, and it's not clear for how long. LisaL Oct 2014 #41

I found this. pnwmom Oct 2014 #48

The virus can remain alive on surfaces at room temperature for days. pnwmom Oct 2014 #47

Washed a CAR? cwydro Oct 2014 #38

Coming to a hospital near you? Or me? LisaL Oct 2014 #40

Possibly. If the vomit was not bone dry when he started spraying it, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #42

they used "extreme" precautions riverwalker Oct 2014 #33

Well, that's discouraging. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #35

Yeah, but it's probably in the downstream chain of decontamination. Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #45

That article says she had fever beginning on the 30th??? Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #46