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Andy823

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168. Well

Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:25 PM

Oct 2014

In my reality president Obama won, and he has been doing a pretty damned good job of fixing the mess republicans left hime. In my reality he has done a lot for this country and for the people of this country. Sure there are a hell of lot more things I would like to see done, but with the republicans doing their best to stop any kind of progress, well it just isn't going to work out. In my reality we need too get rid of republicans in D.C. by voting them out and we need to do our best to get democrats in office, no matter if they pass some kind of purity test or not. The worst democrat is better than "any" republican, and if I don't like the democrat that represents be in D.C., well next time they are up for a primary I vote against them.

I want change in my reality, and it will be slow coming, I know that, but if republicans gain more seats and power, that change doesn't stand a chance of happening. At least with democrats the is a chance and I am willing to take it.

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It�s Official: President Obama Is The Best Economic President In Modern Times [View all] zappaman Oct 2014 OP

Typically, republicans have tried to detract from the president�s accomplishments." BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #1

you better believe it!!! zappaman Oct 2014 #2

How many BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #4

Imagine what could have been done zappaman Oct 2014 #18

And it's that what frustrates me the most - to put it mildly. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #70

I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #22

+1 zappaman Oct 2014 #48

+2. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #69

Boom! You just nailed it, Andy! sheshe2 Oct 2014 #82

Yep, well said! n/t Spazito Oct 2014 #128

Agree. JoePhilly Oct 2014 #166

Didn't add much, did they? zappaman Oct 2014 #174

Good grief, you're right! They might prevent him from being re-elected! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #5

Nobody is "ignoring" those variables. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #72

In fact, I've said kudos to him on a number of occasions. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #87

You know what? I lost my job and never found another notadmblnd Oct 2014 #111

No, you are not correct. U6 accounts for discouraged workers and it has trended down dramatically stevenleser Oct 2014 #125

Let's all mass at the top of the thread and agree with one another woo me with science Oct 2014 #25

Better yet.... Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #133

Well, they never bothered with that part of it when bush/cheney was president. calimary Oct 2014 #47

Makes one wonder, doesn't it? eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #73

Indeed! calimary Oct 2014 #91

I couldn't have written it better than you, calimary! BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #117

Ratios are apparently quite hard to understand MFrohike Oct 2014 #71

Thank you. Excellent point. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #83

The article in Forbes to which the OP linked accounted for that as does the U6 unemployment measure stevenleser Oct 2014 #126

Heh MFrohike Oct 2014 #161

All the evidence proves you wrong. If you understood U-6 you would know that. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #162

Cool MFrohike Oct 2014 #164

There's a very simple explanation as to why a lot are dropping out of the labor force OnlinePoker Oct 2014 #135

The huge rise in the DOW is also helping JoePhilly Oct 2014 #153

If you have a stock portfolio the economy is fabulous Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #3

+1 leftstreet Oct 2014 #6

Are you implying only 20 percent have a sock portfolio? yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #12

52% have some stock ownership n2doc Oct 2014 #44

And many of us who have a little bit in a portfolio, had to stop making liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #52

jaysus. seriously? make stuff up much? cali Oct 2014 #62

+1 liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #34

That is a very valid point. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2014 #42

+++ fadedrose Oct 2014 #68

Which has very little to do with the point of the OP. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #138

Remember when the bushies were bragging about creating louis-t Oct 2014 #7

Democrats trying to save their a***** should be touting Obama's accomplishments Frustratedlady Oct 2014 #8

I would sincerely hope that Democrats do NOT try this trick. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #84

Great for the Corporate Elite... 99Forever Oct 2014 #9

Yes ONLY the corporate elite are better off now zappaman Oct 2014 #10

To a large degree, it is so. 99Forever Oct 2014 #11

Okey dokey. zappaman Oct 2014 #13

Nice response. 99Forever Oct 2014 #15

Not dismissing at all. zappaman Oct 2014 #19

Under President Sanders, life will be better for all... 99Forever Oct 2014 #37

Surely, you're not that politically naive? BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #76

Tell me what bills President Sanders passes with a right-wing Congress. NYC Liberal Oct 2014 #94

Heh... your simple but thoughtful question could not have been ignored any harder Number23 Oct 2014 #116

If he had this congress Obama has to deal with? zappaman Oct 2014 #97

Same lame excuses, different day. 99Forever Oct 2014 #98

This congress who has been against Obama since the moment he took office zappaman Oct 2014 #99

More people would buy that excuse if the President actually fought for the people instead of liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #100

Yes, he should be a dictator. zappaman Oct 2014 #101

so how many people have to live in poverty before the democrats wake up? liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #103

Obama is the one responsible for making an honest effort. 99Forever Oct 2014 #102

exactly. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #104

So you're unhappy that Obama is honest? zappaman Oct 2014 #105

I am not going to go round in circles with you. You go be happy with the President. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author 99Forever Oct 2014 #107

You are actually very wrong. NCTraveler Oct 2014 #136

but..but..but.. Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #108

I am so glad I am not a democrat anymore. I hope you won't miss my vote this year. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #109

Good Lord Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #110

Wow. zappaman Oct 2014 #112

If you're not a Democrat, why are you here? zappaman Oct 2014 #113

I can only imagine the convenience of perceiving the world in a consistent either-or fashion. LanternWaste Oct 2014 #139

Just curious Andy823 Oct 2014 #23

What does that have to do with anything? 99Forever Oct 2014 #35

Well Andy823 Oct 2014 #49

Actually a question TBF Oct 2014 #57

Classic name calling Andy823 Oct 2014 #58

Can't handle the substance TBF Oct 2014 #60

Yep Andy823 Oct 2014 #120

Again avoiding the substance - how does insulting TBF Oct 2014 #123

Honest question, my ass. 99Forever Oct 2014 #61

Wow Andy823 Oct 2014 #122

I didn't "try to paint you" as ... 99Forever Oct 2014 #141

Maybe you should read what I posted Andy823 Oct 2014 #165

Well bud... 99Forever Oct 2014 #167

Well Andy823 Oct 2014 #168

Blah.. blah... blah... 99Forever Oct 2014 #169

We need someone dishonest like Bernie Sanders! zappaman Oct 2014 #172

You don't seem to grasp that stating the facts- cali Oct 2014 #65

... progressoid Oct 2014 #89

For you. bravenak Oct 2014 #51

the middle classes are largely NOT better off. The lower middle class certainly isn't cali Oct 2014 #63

Number of jobs only say so much. Neoma Oct 2014 #14

Acording to Obama �Median family incomes, that�s one that is not doing better,� Autumn Oct 2014 #16

But, but, but the economy is doing sooooo gooood! Phlem Oct 2014 #17

If the people aren't doing good, the economy isn't doing good. Autumn Oct 2014 #39

I agree Andy823 Oct 2014 #50

The chocolate ration has been increased! (Low-wage jobs replace middle-income work) woo me with science Oct 2014 #20

excellent reference material here! I wonder since stock market participation is at all time low whereisjustice Oct 2014 #33

And your point is????? BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #46

thank you, thank you, thank you! cali Oct 2014 #66

I highly recommend this post! Pastiche423 Oct 2014 #157

(*) for the wealthy. eom whereisjustice Oct 2014 #21

+1 That asterisk says a whole lot for the 50 million in poverty. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #26

India's booming Democracy has 340 million people living at or below $1.24/day and you whereisjustice Oct 2014 #31

Very important asterisk. nt woo me with science Oct 2014 #29

But the Debbie Downers at DU keep telling us everything is shit... SidDithers Oct 2014 #24

Oh well zappaman Oct 2014 #40

I dub them serial complainers. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #77

"Edit: not surprisingly, they're all over your thread." Number23 Oct 2014 #92

Exactly... SidDithers Oct 2014 #114

I can see how annoying and hurtful it is to you whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #124

... SidDithers Oct 2014 #134

I would suggest there's a difference between a foreign co-founder whatchamacallit Oct 2014 #145

Really, the only answer that tired old trope even deserves Number23 Oct 2014 #160

Believe Canada! BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #115

The perpetually disgruntled aren't happy!! JoePhilly Oct 2014 #154

But...but...but... valerief Oct 2014 #27

Yes he is, because his policies have worked. lovemydog Oct 2014 #28

k&r... spanone Oct 2014 #30

No president pushing for TPP and TISA woo me with science Oct 2014 #32

Thank you. liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #36

Remember this is Forbes and for the rich, Obama has been great. For the non-rich, pretty much whereisjustice Oct 2014 #38

yup. Phlem Oct 2014 #54

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Damn commie, fascist, socialist, Kenyan Muslim! FlatStanley Oct 2014 #41

Perhaps you remember the later Clinton years during the dot.com bubble amandabeech Oct 2014 #43

Democrats aren't trying to detract from his accomplishments, we're trying to get him to do more yurbud Oct 2014 #45

Some definitely are, they pretend the obstructionists in congress do not exist, and give POTUS no bettyellen Oct 2014 #59

+1 Bobbie Jo Oct 2014 #75

I'm sorry but I have zero trust in anyone who used to be a republican.... bettyellen Oct 2014 #80

+2000. BlueCaliDem Oct 2014 #78

Democrats could have ended obstruction in Senate by yurbud Oct 2014 #129

and that will be great when a Republican does the same right? We need to take back Congress to fix bettyellen Oct 2014 #131

How often did Democrats use filibuster when Bush was president yurbud Oct 2014 #142

How does Republican obstruction stop Wall St prosecution? yurbud Oct 2014 #130

The unwillingness to prosecute AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #150

and our Third Way president can't blame that on Republican obstruction--he CHOSE to do nothing. yurbud Oct 2014 #158

How does Republican obstruction force obama's corrupt K-12 privatization policy? yurbud Oct 2014 #132

He not only didn't prosecute Wall St, he's giving them our public education yurbud Oct 2014 #159

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #53

Or the Economist Phlem Oct 2014 #55

Actually many aren't happy with Obama AndreaCG Oct 2014 #67

That is an interesting way of dodging the substance of the OP, but it's still a dodge. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #137

For the 1%, yes, for the rest of us not so much. kickysnana Oct 2014 #74

"modern times" - what does that mean . . . . 2000's? DrDan Oct 2014 #79

It means since the end of the second world war. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #127

By any measure, people are actually worse off now. alarimer Oct 2014 #170

No doubt - the 1% have prospered DrDan Oct 2014 #171

Republicans are why the "middle class" aren't doing better killbotfactory Oct 2014 #81

Imagine what he could have done if he had a working congress to help him. jwirr Oct 2014 #85

This in spite of despicable GOP obstruction at every turn smelling of economic indepat Oct 2014 #86

I agree somewhat..... robthesocialist Oct 2014 #88

Probably why a recent poll in this forum has the president's support at around 84 freaking percent Number23 Oct 2014 #90

Lots of Nattering Nabobs of Negativism in this thread. Nye Bevan Oct 2014 #93

I'll make sure to thank him the next time I have to take money out of my 401(k) just to liberal_at_heart Oct 2014 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #152

Well, that's depressing. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #96

I'm gonna rec this because TBF Oct 2014 #118

True. zappaman Oct 2014 #119

But that will only make the GOP angrier and nastier than they already are. Now they are focused on kelliekat44 Oct 2014 #121

Let them eat cake Capt. Obvious Oct 2014 #140

and precisely what policies of his were enacted that led to this? stupidicus Oct 2014 #143

The article only compares him to Reagan AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #144

No, it doesn't. The title says best economic President in modern times. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #147

Without proof AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #148

The whole article is proof as it contrasts him with the guy previously thought of as best. nt stevenleser Oct 2014 #151

That is absurd on it's face AgingAmerican Oct 2014 #173

Nothin' But Good Times Ahead Orsino Oct 2014 #146

Secrets divulged on election Night in November guyfromla Oct 2014 #149

Yay the least stinky turd in the bowl! Man from Pickens Oct 2014 #155

The numbers may say it R.Quinn Oct 2014 #156

Dems need to run some ads about this Liberal_in_LA Oct 2014 #163

Krugman on why Obama is a historic success pampango Oct 2014 #175