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AverageJoe90

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21. I didn't discount anything, actually.

Tue Oct 7, 2014, 04:37 PM

Oct 2014

However, though, the real problem is, many healthcare workers in West Africa simply don't have adequate protection, period(ain't got a darn thing to do with face masks, btw!), and some hospitals just don't operate to the basic decent standards that they should. And then there's the individual slip-ups by individual nurses, doctors, etc., in either Africa or the West that can and do happen, which only complicates matters(like what happened here in the D/FW area). And *that's* where we should be looking for problems, at least as far as the West is concerned.

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Experts on disease transmission: Ebola may be spread through the air. Respirators ARE necessary. [View all] pnwmom Oct 2014 OP

Healthcare workers are in a class of their own and need protective equipment. Majority of cases uppityperson Oct 2014 #1

But the CDC is not requiring they be given this equipment, without which their risk of pnwmom Oct 2014 #2

While I agree with the general idea... Agschmid Oct 2014 #10

They don't. The WHO should also change their recommendations, according to these experts. pnwmom Oct 2014 #11

I generally agree. Agschmid Oct 2014 #16

and dealing with the bodies of those who have died. cali Oct 2014 #3

Indeed, they also. High risk groups including dealing with highly infectious dead need better uppityperson Oct 2014 #4

Can't argue with that. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #36

given that some caregivers have contracted the disease after all known precautions... Kalidurga Oct 2014 #5

more from link on concept of "aerosol transmissible" to replace outdated paradigm zazen Oct 2014 #6

this ^^^ librechik Oct 2014 #9

Thank you, zazen, for posting more about the "outdated paradigm" some are using to back up pnwmom Oct 2014 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #22

See post 7. "Outdated paradigms" you've been hearing about are not actually a problem. nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #23

One study doesn't prove anything. The point is that the scientific experts disagree on this, pnwmom Oct 2014 #35

Not according to this study published this year. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2014 #7

thx for the access! n/t librechik Oct 2014 #8

The authors in the OP dispute the conclusion of your study, and explain why in their article. pnwmom Oct 2014 #12

As I commented on another post about this: dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #14

Right. We should take the most conservative approach to protecting our health care personnel. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #15

Good article, thanks for posting. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #17

What is clear is that there is no proof that it cannot be transmitted through the air. pnwmom Oct 2014 #18

I'm all for taking as many precautions as possible. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #19

Except that the evidence you discount is that 120 healthcare workers have gotten pnwmom Oct 2014 #20

I didn't discount anything, actually. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #21

And if airborne transmission actually occurred, that number would be 120,000. jeff47 Oct 2014 #24

No, airborne transmission could be unlikely but POSSIBLE. That is clearly what the scientists who pnwmom Oct 2014 #25

No, they really don't. jeff47 Oct 2014 #31

Because whenever there is a case where it might have happened, such as with Dr. Brantley pnwmom Oct 2014 #32

When in danger or in doubt. run in circles, scream and shout. hobbit709 Oct 2014 #26

I agree neverforget Oct 2014 #33

The CDC is lying to us...they really can't say 100% it can't go airborne scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #27

�Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here.� zazen Oct 2014 #29

I haven't been here long enough to notice the shaming but scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #30

Oh boy, here we go again with the fearmongering.....nt AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #37

Considering what a grizzly epidemic this is, sadoldgirl Oct 2014 #28

"healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not (N95) facemasks" riverwalker Oct 2014 #34