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Centrist1984

(32 posts)
52. Disagree with much of this
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:48 AM
Oct 2014
When your Cranky Correspondent was a wee lad, there were Republicans (without quotes) with a sane, sensible platform that mentioned equality, living wages, economic sanity, and lots of reasonable ideals like that. And had the Republican Party remained sane, this writer might still be one (he was raised to be, after all). But then came Kent State and Watergate, and the GOP got spanked. Hard. So the Elephants got angry. Really angry.


What kind of equality? The modern GOP does not support the concept of equality of outcome in the way the Democratic party does because that essentially, to them, means theft of property. It also creates a society where everyone becomes equally poorer. The GOP does believe much in equality under the law, although unfortunately there are the exceptions such as with regards to their being against same-sex marriage.

The modern GOP does not believe in any kind of "living wages" because that is a completely arbitrary term and wages and incomes are the price of labor. The only entity that should be setting prices is the market. If you have the government start dictating such a thing, you get market distortions, usually an increasing of the unemployment rate, because if you artificially and excessively raise the price of something, the buyers of it will buy less. No different than putting a large tax on gasoline.

I do not think either party adheres to economic sanity right now. Both have their own ideas about economics which include some sensible points and some insane ideas.

That anger is the core of the modern “Republican” party, and once you understand that, everything about their behavior makes sense:

“Why do Repubs seem irrational?” Angry people aren’t rational.


I have seen plenty of angry people on the Democratic party side too. In fact, that is how many in the GOP see them, so that really is arbitrary.

“Why are so many Repubs trying to steal elections?” Because in their irrational anger, they see themselves as victims who are trying to take back what they think is rightfully theirs, never mind the law.

“Why do so many Repubs steal?”
See previous answer.


Not sure how this is limited to the GOP and not to both parties.

“Why do Repubs hate minorities, gays, foreigners, and other non-Repubs?” Because they see themselves as a uniquely and horribly wronged people, and if you aren’t one of them, you are the enemy.


The GOP does not hate minorities, foreigners, and non-Republicans. There is bigotry amongst a portion of the GOP, primarily the Evangelicals, for gays, but that is due to religion moreso than conservatism as a political philosophy.

“Why do Repubs want to destroy the Constitution as we know it?” Because that Constitution is what Nixon and the Republicans tried to subvert, and it was what was used to thwart their crime spree. Show me a crook who likes the rule of law. Good luck finding one: crooks hate laws.


How do the GOP seek to "destroy the Constitution?"

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Right wingers have always followed the Buckley maxim: hifiguy Oct 2014 #1
A great response BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #3
I am old enough to tell you that it was once true. hifiguy Oct 2014 #7
Thanks for the link BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #8
+1 daleanime Oct 2014 #9
There were Republicans that were actually fairly liberal NewJeffCT Oct 2014 #12
You nailed it. Thirties Child Oct 2014 #13
I was BORN in '56. hifiguy Oct 2014 #15
Exactly. Of course, there were yesterday's Southern Democrats, most of today's "tea partiers"... Hortensis Oct 2014 #44
May want to revise your progressivist optmism there BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #28
i am not terribly optimistic in the short run, hifiguy Oct 2014 #30
+1 SomethingFishy Oct 2014 #43
K & R. n/t FSogol Oct 2014 #2
Disagree with one central point IDemo Oct 2014 #4
yesssss: it's *unmoored* anger that they've been cultivating for so long (that also helps explain MisterP Oct 2014 #11
Hold on. Frozen is gay propaganda?? LondonReign2 Oct 2014 #22
Hell, if a Teletubbie was gay.... riqster Oct 2014 #26
the queen sings "let it go": literally that's it MisterP Oct 2014 #27
I just learned something there. Thanks. byronius Oct 2014 #40
Republicans should just let it go. Efilroft Sul Oct 2014 #35
Republican anger has been amped up by RW talkers and Fox News. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #21
For sure! FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) tend to make us react more conservatively, protectively. Hortensis Oct 2014 #45
you have generalized too much strawberries Oct 2014 #5
It's a blog post, not a dissertation. riqster Oct 2014 #33
Things in the rear view mirror may look better than they are/were. merrily Oct 2014 #6
K&R freshwest Oct 2014 #10
But it wasn't a post-Watergate reaction starroute Oct 2014 #14
True. There are those who use emotion to manipulate. riqster Oct 2014 #17
You forgot fear, they are motivated by fear as well as anger. Rex Oct 2014 #16
Fear and anger are synergistic. Good point. riqster Oct 2014 #18
Not quite buying this. zentrum Oct 2014 #19
Nixon was an anomaly, and strange even for that. hifiguy Oct 2014 #23
Well Said!! n/t zentrum Oct 2014 #24
exactly right. n/t MBS Oct 2014 #41
Nixon's vendettas were personal, not systemic. hifiguy Oct 2014 #42
It's more the post-Nixon phenomenon I wrote about here, riqster Oct 2014 #46
Really agree with this. zentrum Oct 2014 #47
Thom Hartmann coincidentally just said..... zentrum Oct 2014 #48
Thom Hartmann has hifiguy Oct 2014 #50
Perhaps it is just more overt these past years. riqster Oct 2014 #32
This reminded me of what President Clinton said EileenFB Oct 2014 #20
He also said something that stayed with me. riqster Oct 2014 #25
I think this is because... zentrum Oct 2014 #49
But conservatism will never go away and will always be a political force. Kablooie Oct 2014 #29
Quibble: the use of "conservative" is inaccurate and plays into their hands. riqster Oct 2014 #31
yes, you're right MBS Oct 2014 #37
Ultra-reactionaries, actually. hifiguy Oct 2014 #39
excellent article vlyons Oct 2014 #34
Some things predate the recent period. riqster Oct 2014 #36
spot-on summary of a frustrating, hideous and shameful period in our history MBS Oct 2014 #38
My parents were yellow dog Democrats. Manifestor_of_Light Oct 2014 #51
Disagree with much of this Centrist1984 Oct 2014 #52
The same way lurkers seek to destroy ... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #53
You blew it in your first paragraph. riqster Oct 2014 #54
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