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In reply to the discussion: Get Your Flu Shot, Folks! [View all]Ms. Toad
(38,090 posts)196. Yes. Some studies have found even lower.
2010 vaccine 0% - 60% improvement
Mar 1, 2013 (CIDRAP News) Experts are puzzled by a new study in which influenza vaccination seemed to provide little or no protection against flu in the 2010-11 seasonand in which the only participants who seemed to benefit from the vaccine were those who hadn't been vaccinated the season before.
The investigators recruited 328 households in Michigan before the flu season started and followed them through the season. Overall, they found that the infection risk was nearly the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated participants, indicating no significant vaccine-induced protection, according to their report in Clinical Infectious Diseases. That contrasted sharply with several other observational studies that found the vaccine to yield about 60% protection during the same season.
The investigators recruited 328 households in Michigan before the flu season started and followed them through the season. Overall, they found that the infection risk was nearly the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated participants, indicating no significant vaccine-induced protection, according to their report in Clinical Infectious Diseases. That contrasted sharply with several other observational studies that found the vaccine to yield about 60% protection during the same season.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2013/03/study-getting-flu-shot-2-years-row-may-lower-protection
He also cautioned that the meta-analyses focus on nursing homes, which are very different from hospitals, where patient turnover is higher and there are often people in the facility who aren't HCWs. Even with 100% vaccination rates in employees, the roughly 60% protection offered by the vaccine creates a gap in which workers can still get sick and spread the virus to patients, he said.
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2013/09/analysis-finds-limited-evidence-hcw-flu-vaccination
A total of 2,319 children and adults were enrolled in the study from Dec 2, 2013, to Jan 23, 2014, according to a separate MMWR article today. Of those, 784 tested positive for flu by polymerase chain reaction. Twenty-nine percent of those who tested positive had been vaccinated, versus 50% of those who tested negative. That translates into a VE of 61% (95% confidence interval [CI], 52%-68%).
http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/02/cdc-flu-vaccine-61-effective-too-few-adults-get-it
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It will also help not over run our health care system by getting sick and needing care.
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#2
Improve herd health, save taxpayer and insurance premium dollars and lost work time.
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#74
Dont' insurance companies pay for it via ACA? Not sure about employer ones
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#11
Thank you, that is what I thought and meant. I almost bought 1 at pharmacy but remembered
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#13
Me too as it sets off my asthma in a really bad way, prefer to avoid that and the resulting pnumoni
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#19
I have had that but unfortunately there are lots of microscopic critters that like to live in
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#39
Seriously, this is a video you might want to watch, 50 million people died from the flu.
RKP5637
Oct 2014
#179
I respect your love of statistics and have heard that death rattle. nt
littlemissmartypants
Oct 2014
#186
If you work with the young, elderly or immuno-compromised, you are putting them in danger.
KitSileya
Oct 2014
#206
In high school I met a friend's sister who got mumps encephalitis. She was blind ...
Hekate
Oct 2014
#169
People who are born rich think they got that way by being smarter & working harder than poor people
Hekate
Oct 2014
#212
I don't know. I was in the office end of August, and that's when they gave it to me.
cali
Oct 2014
#121
It's you right to be a Typhoid Mary for flu. Enjoy your status. It's a real
kestrel91316
Oct 2014
#77
With some strains of flu a strong immune system can actually make it worse.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2014
#117
I got the flu shot today because I care about other people, you apparently don't...
Humanist_Activist
Oct 2014
#136
I asked my new dr. about that, I could not remember how far back my last one was. He said it
RKP5637
Oct 2014
#61
Done! The university I work at offered them at work for free. It's awesome. I wish
catbyte
Oct 2014
#35
My family had that Hong Kong flu. I was delirious. I don't want to go through that again.
Enthusiast
Oct 2014
#172
Did you know that hacking bronchitis often is the aftermath of influenza? And you do not need an a
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#44
paying their employees is a net loss, but donating vaccine is a BIG tax write-off.
BlancheSplanchnik
Oct 2014
#205
Stomach flu is not what the influenza vaccone protects against, is a totally different virus.
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#89
People who are generally poorer health have a tendency to get vx for diseases to prevent from
uppityperson
Oct 2014
#84
You are aware that there actually is mercury in the most common forms of influenza vaccine, right?
Ms. Toad
Oct 2014
#151
Hey, your choice. My choice is to try to avoid getting flu again.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2014
#145
I get one yearly, have since I started working in health care twenty years ago.
DeadLetterOffice
Oct 2014
#123
I have never taken a flu vaccination. Not because I believe it will give me autism or some
madinmaryland
Oct 2014
#125
Thanks for the reminder MM. They're free, here at work, but I'm a procrastinator.
Tarheel_Dem
Oct 2014
#127
I do. A 6'4" guy weighing in at 145 pounds in a hospital bed because of secondary infections...
hunter
Oct 2014
#131
I always get one. Only once did I ever think it effected me right after. That time I had been to
brewens
Oct 2014
#154
We were planning for last weekend but my 5-year old got the the sniffles and was a bit congested
tandot
Oct 2014
#157
I am not sure that it is the not caring about others that always drives
littlemissmartypants
Oct 2014
#197
See #55, I thought that was a pretty good video of flu risks, 50 million people dead, many young
RKP5637
Oct 2014
#183
Just wanted to mention here, the best way to protect us older folks is to make sure all the
hedgehog
Oct 2014
#201