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whatthehey

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10. but the European system in general would draw much ire here
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:30 AM
Oct 2014

You can't just decide at 18 to waltz into Heidelberg with a 2.0 GPA (well, the German equivalent) and get your tuition paid.

There are rigorous standardized tests (horror!) even to get into a gymnasium - the school system that makes university entrance much more likely although it's not quite mandatory any more - at 10 or so. There are more controlled curricula to pass within this 9-yr almost entirely academic school, and then standardized tests to gain entry into university. The whole university system there is much like the top schools here, very competitive and selective for acceptance. There are more and less prestigious universities of course, but none are as easy to be accepted at as a normal US state university, and the entry criteria are very much more focused on academics than subjective personal criteria. The German taxpayers aren't going to give a sub-par student a free ride just because he helps old ladies across the street.

I believe the European system is superior, but applying it here would immediately raise complaints about elitism and centrally imposed standards.

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That's what you can do... CincyDem Oct 2014 #1
Our MIC is sucking us dry. nt City Lights Oct 2014 #2
Along with Wall Street, don't forget! As Forest Gump would say, "Like peas and carrots!" Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #8
Very true! nt City Lights Oct 2014 #9
If we can afford any new war without even discussing costs, morningfog Oct 2014 #3
There's one reason why education and health care can't be free... Initech Oct 2014 #20
It can't have been eliminated treestar Oct 2014 #4
Your right. It's called everyone investing in the future of your country. Lochloosa Oct 2014 #5
Right you are rock Oct 2014 #7
That's good, but we don't know how it is being paid for treestar Oct 2014 #33
Smart people and dumb people. nt ladjf Oct 2014 #6
I recently had dinner with a German who asked why... polichick Oct 2014 #21
I don't agree that our problem is that we don't demand ladjf Oct 2014 #22
The people have to make demands. When the SC ruled on Citizens United, the people should have... polichick Oct 2014 #23
I totally agree with your logic. But, my point is that Americans are so brain damaged ladjf Oct 2014 #24
I agree, they have people where they want us - "battered, broke and discouraged"... polichick Oct 2014 #25
Germans see their government as THEIR government, existing to serve them, as ours is meant to. Hortensis Oct 2014 #26
"Germans see their government as THEIR government" - What a concept! polichick Oct 2014 #27
Why? BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #30
Also easily divided - if "their team" is in charge they don't question much. polichick Oct 2014 #32
but the European system in general would draw much ire here whatthehey Oct 2014 #10
To whatthehey - I disagree with everything you said Democrats Ramshield Oct 2014 #12
You didn't address anything whatthehey said. Throd Oct 2014 #13
Throd, I couldn't agree with you Democrats Ramshield Oct 2014 #15
Hahaha. Man, are people delusional about Europe sometimes. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #18
Americans would never stand for being told they're trade school material. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #19
Well it is a little different BlindTiresias Oct 2014 #31
Everyone, please feel free to share my article on Facebook and Twitter Democrats Ramshield Oct 2014 #11
The most influential positions at universities are now sources of wealth for their occupants RadiationTherapy Oct 2014 #14
RadiationTherapy - Well said Democrats Ramshield Oct 2014 #16
Treasuring education and the next generation's future? Anti-American. polichick Oct 2014 #17
Wunderbar!! madamvlb Oct 2014 #28
No tuition?! How will they pay for their football coaches and programs? KurtNYC Oct 2014 #29
Profits uber alles! moondust Oct 2014 #34
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